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Woman (and mom) here and think it is acceptable given the disruptions of daily life present in calls all the time now. Maybe “unprofessional” but so is your kid running around in the background interrupting you and I don’t think people would be so quick to say turn the camera off. I’ve done a few calls on video with my toddler sitting in my lap and would do the same if I were breastfeeding right now.
As a woman, I think it’s unprofessional with the camera on—just as I would find it unprofessional if a colleague were eating on camera during a call. If you need to feed your child or eat during a call, turn the damn camera off.
Female here, but that’s a big no. Would a woman seriously sit in the middle of an in-person meeting in a conference room and breastfeed their baby? It’s unprofessional. Just turn the camera off
Exactly just turn the camera off. If anyone asks she could tell them she was breast feeding.
Nursing mom here. I’ve done it 2 ways, one with only my forehead showing and one with camera off. Teams were fine both ways... I prefer camera off but I do not hide what I’m doing. I’ll say “oh here’s the baby I’m going to turn my camera off but I’m still here” - everyone knows what’s happening.
I will say, there was a note about a month ago about partners being on video... after that people esp partners would call out my video for being turned off. That was weird but has subsided.
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Wow so you were breastfeeding as a guy?
Please OP, it is okay. In 2020, anyone can breastfeed whether it be a man or woman. Don’t let them stop you from doing so. Leave the camera on. Let them see what a true man looks likes.
The exhibitionist was intentionally trying to provoke a response and get a free ride to retirement. Maybe she's a low performer and knows she's going to get laid off soon.
D1 thinks all the points related comments and berating comments are a joke.
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Let’s stop pretending any rules Apply
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Jeez just turn the camera off. Why is this even worthy of asking?
I leave my camera off if I have to eat on a call....
I’m an upright prude, so I felt weird nursing on teleconference calls. That’s just me. I’d definitely be fine with it in this Covid insanity if it the camera was from the shoulders up. If it was a wider view, I might feel uncomfortable but attribute that to my issues, not the colleague’s choice.
I pumped through 2 kids - and frequently on calls. It. Sucks. It is so much work and I’m sure she’s drained enough already. If the pandemic means she can nurse during the day, good for her. She deserves a win. All of us do these days.
Exactly! Especially with all the info we see about how covid work from home is disproportionally affecting working women who now are working full time AND being full time caregivers.
I am a breastfeeding mom who will return from maternity leave next week. I can count how many zoom calls I had prior to mat leave so this will be pretty new for me. I am shocked how many zoom calls with cameras on are already on my schedule for the next few weeks. I am adding my 2 cents because I feel like people might not realize how much of my day is spent nursing. My baby eats every 2.5-3 hours and each feeding takes about 30 minutes (he had a tongue tie as a newborn and is still a slow eater. Additionally bottle feeding sets us back as it makes it harder on him to switch back to boob and I am a just enougher so pumping instead of feeding negatively impacts my supply and my son has a strong preference to breastmilk over formula).
So let’s say I have 6 hours of zoom calls one day (which is a very real scenario on my current calendar), I likely need to nurse one hour of that time frame. I would cover or move the camera so it’s just the top of my face showing. My preference would of course be camera off but there seems to be a lot of pressure on having the camera on.
For people who ask what would you do if we were back in the office, Sure I would probably be pumping and supplementing with formula but I wouldn’t be worried about a global pandemic and the antibodies breastmilk can provide.
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I often (OFTEN) turn my camera off just because I dont feel like having ppl stare at my face, or because I haven't washed my hair or any million stupid reasons. Ppl just need to get over it. So far no pushback and if someone is silently judging me well that's on them
It’s 2020 , women can be topless now
Associate 5 = overdramatic millenial that can't find humor in any situation and has to make everything an issue. This whole topic is absurd. Turn off the camera. That's why companies have mother's rooms. Even though you are in your home, you are broadcasting an image. And most places of work uphold higher codes of decency than what is allowed in public domain. This is why people aren't allowed total "free speech" at work.
I am currently a nursing mom. But I absolutely would not have camera on. In fact, I block out my calendar when I’m nursing. Just because we are home doesn’t mean we can’t be professional.
I think of it this way, if I had to be in the office I’d be unavailable because of pumping. So why am I making myself available for any meeting or call during the time when my baby needs to nurse, camera or not?
The big difference is (and maybe your child is different) pumping and nursing are typically not scheduled the same way. I pump twice at work. If I’m home with my son he may nurse 3-4 times in that same time frame. When he wants to nurse is dependent on when he wakes up from night time sleep and his naps and on how much solid food he eats and if he’s feeling well or if he’s teething. I’d never be able to schedule around his nursing “schedule”.
I did nurse him on zoom calls but I kept the camera off for my own comfort. I’ve also nursed him at the Christmas get together and other various events with my co-workers present. No one batted an eye.
As a guy and a father, I don’t think why we even need to discuss this. It’s a natural process that a mother has to nurture her child (just like all the other moms do) and shouldn’t be subject to public voting/views. Her body her decision and nothing to be ashamed about it. Peace ✌️
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Right, it "should be" the way you want.. but it is not.. why is that?
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I am a dude. I can't comprehend why we are having this conversation. You don't like something? Don't look at it. Just mind your own f*ck!ng business.
Ah.. why hasn't anybody thought of this brilliant defense? You should thr attorney for people accused of indecent exposure.
It’s weird. I’m a woman btw. It’s not the breastfeeding itself that is the issue. It’s the fact that doing most anything but not focusing on the matter at hand in a work meeting would be deemed weird. This is not a more casual setting, like a restaurant or a park, where it’d be cool. In most work meetings, it’d be weird to be even eating- and I mean like if you were to have food that required a fork and knife, not a simple snack, and of course not a drink. Things that wouldn’t be done in most work meetings: having your kid in the room, having your dog in the room, obviously working on other matters and not paying attention, looking at your phone, making your lunch, exercising, etc. you get the point.
Meetings (should) be times of strategic focus where it’s important for the group to get together and discuss. I’m not saying they actually are. Meetings can be and are misused, and we’ve all been to pointless meetings. She should have just turned off her camera or angled it up. Why broadcast to everyone that you aren’t focused or you think the meeting is pointless lol? Especially when she didn’t have to?
I love the discussion that this post kindled, and I’ve had some hearty laughs reading the comments and discussing with my spouse. Thank you for this! I’m just nearing the end of my own breastfeeding journey. Nursing the last year has completely and udderly (pun intended☺️) changed my feelings on public nursing. Going into it, I was previously embarrassed by family members who nursed around the extended family, I swore I was going to be more modest than that when I had kids and only feed in private. Then I had a baby, nursed that baby when they were hungry or sad, thanked God for the gift of being able to breastfeed my baby to provide for him, and all the while I literally stopped caring what ANYone else thinks about it. Period. I’ve actually surprised myself in that way (it kinda surprised my spouse also lol), but now I just see it as a gift, and I’m so grateful for it, I literally could not care less about what anyone else thinks about it. Not in a mean or selfish way, but truly in a compassionate desire to care for my son and not think of myself or my surroundings as a barrier.
That being said - I would personally feel empowered to turn off my camera in a video call while nursing in order to prioritize my sons needs. And it’s ok for a mom to agree or disagree, but if she’s anything like me, she literally does not care what anyone else thinks when feeding her child, and that’s A-OK 👌 🥰
I think it should be more accepted including in professional settings if needed. I’m sure she was covered by the baby’s head or a blanket. It’s not weird till you make it weird.
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People on this thread equating breastfeeding to defecating, and breasts to genitalia ... how low we’ve fallen as a society 🤦🏻♀️
EY 6 and A5 nobody is saying breastfeeding is immoral or the only way to breastfeed is to do it uncovered and exposing yourself and livestreaming on a work meeting. Stop pretending that that is what people are saying. Yes, how low people have fallen as a society that they pretend that you breastfeeding uncovered is some sort of new normal for post 1960's time.
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For everyone calling this “inappropriate,” I’m positive y’all are lobbying your company and congressional reps for 12 months paid family leave for all. Right? Right?
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Cap - no one was fully exposed. Literally wasn’t part of the post. You’re tilting at windmills.
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If there was a blanket, then it’s okay. Breastfeeding is not a dirty or lewd act. Everyone needs to get over themselves.
Are you a baby?
Nursing mom here... pumping as I type this hahaha... whatever the mom needs to do to keep up her work obligations and baby feeding obligations should be acceptable. Believe me when I say the person having the most difficult time on that call was the mom, despite how awkward it may have been for everyone else. That's a whole separate social issue meant for another conversation. Allow everyone a little grace.
Breastfeeding mom here. My first reaction to this was just turn off the camera to avoid the distraction but after further thought if baby was below camera angle then what’s the difference if the actual activity is off camera anyhow?
That said I would liken this somewhat to my personal stance on adults eating in meetings: generally fine in less formal settings with smaller groups; probably best to avoid in more formal meetings with larger, executive or client groups. Actually has less to do with normalizing breastfeeding and for me is more about acknowledging that there are some work settings where we can all be real with each other about juggling work/personal obligations and other times I actually don’t want anyone in the room thinking about anything but how good I am at my job.
I love it. Who cares. Kids need to eat. We are all grown.
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Personally wouldn’t do it but if she’s comfortable with it (or felt pressure to have the camera on) more power to her. As for people feeling uncomfortable, tough sht.