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Rising Star
You should always use your remaining PTO prior to giving notice. Your employer has no obligation to let you serve out your notice period (at least in the U.S.) so you could get let go before you are able to.
I agree. “I learned that the hard way,” circa 1998. I submitted a four week notice (the traditional two week working notice to be followed by my remaining two week balance of vacation time) and I even clearly stated I would be open to remaining an additional two weeks between my two weeks working notice and my two weeks vacation time, for a total of six weeks notice, if they needed the extra time to choose my replacement. After I respectfully declined their counter offer to keep me, they said they understood and appreciated my giving notice. A few days later, during my shift but way before the end of my notice, I was relieved of my duties. They took my keys and had me witness them balance all on-property monies (cash, check numbers, and the like). I was watched as I gathered my personal property and after “a nice visit,” I got up to leave and inquired about my vacation balance and the balance of the two week working notice I gave but “surprisingly” wasn’t allowed to complete and I was told I lost my vacation time when I submitted my notice and they, of course, would end my salary effective immediately. I had been so incredibly loyal to that company. You could say I was “married to my job.” Big lessons learned. I didn’t & don’t carry any animosity towards them or the company as I understand “it was just business,” but I learned several life lessons. In today’s world, my experience would probably be labeled idiotic and toxic. I’m sharing in hopes that even one person can learn from my experience.
In our company no they want you present to turn in company property/ possible exit interview/ distribute final paycheck. A very easy way to earn a days pay. But I’m sure it’s fine at some companies. And nothing is really stopping you from quitting without notice, just depends on whether you are concerned about burning that particular bridge.
Yes you should know your state laws about that. In CA unused PTO that has been accrued (as opposed to ‘unlimited PTO’). has to be paid out at termination regardless but that’s not true everywhere. Also whether you can use PTO is at your employers discretion, they don’t have to permit it.
I think no one here really explained the elephant in the room. Companies frown on you using PTO as your last day or manually adding the PTO hrs to your last paycheck because the tax collected from them is different, and they are intentionally trying to screw you.
If a company pays out your PTO, that, by tax standards, is called a supplemental payment, which is basically not a regular paycheck. You get taxed federally at 22% + all regular taxes of any paycheck, which comes out to about 50%, depending on whether or not your state has a state tax. It's basically their final f you by making you receive that money separately.
I used to use all my PTO on my days off when I was a manager because the company refused to let me take time off. Then, my company was bought by a different company, and that company said I couldn't do that anymore but also refused to let me take my time off. During the last month before I took my severance, I added about 80 hours of PTO to my days off of one paycheck because HR said I could do it if I wanted to, but the store manager had to approve it. Then he got all pissy, saying he wouldn't do it again (like, why do you care it's not your money?) But yea, I got screwed into being paid out 221 hrs of leftover PTO, and I was pissed when I saw the tax deductions. Also, severance pay receives the same tax rate... I wasn't thrilled to find this out. I lost 50% of my PTO and severance money to taxes.
Oh 100% worth considering. I completely agree.
Rising Star
Should be fine for one day, but effectively you are cutting short your notice period, it might leave bad taste with them if you take several days PTO, and basically leave a couple days after giving notice.
Rising Star
You never know when you might need a reference, or want to be hired by someone you worked with before, etc.
I’m saying what Op suggested is very likely fine
But if you can be professional and make sure everyone is Ok with your plans, then it’s to your benefit.
Plus you get paid out for PTO, so do you really need to take it off?
Chief
You can do whatever you want. What are they going to do, fire you? You can quit at any time.
My company is great about paying out the unused PTO but the policy is no more than 240 accrued hours.
I had quite a few unused PTO days when I gave two weeks notice at my former job in 2023. I thought, and I was told, that I would be paid out for the PTO days.
After I left and was in my new position, I noticed that not only was I not paid for the unused PTO days, I hadn’t received my final pay either.
A discussion ensued and eventually I received my final pay but was never paid for the unused PTO days despite being told I would be. Lesson learned, always take all of your PTO days prior to giving notice 💁♀️
Chief
Yes! Take your day.
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If you are in an AT Will state, you are good!!