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“Let these people win”
Way to expose it’s always been about control and not muh science.
Pro
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.02.495455v1
Is this satire? Tell me you’re a liberal without telling me your a liberal.
“Let these people win?” What a joke.
Their personal health decisions are none of your damn business.
👏👏👏
Pro
Wow. Why don’t you worry about you and leave them alone?
Enthusiast
If you don’t like it, stay home
Chief
im not. but vaccines alone wont stop this pandemic. theyre a necessary but not sufficient criterion.
Chief
OP yea but like you see in this thread, people would rather damn everyone to get sick from an easily preventable virus than do something tonprevent the spread
Chief
what do you mean by "prevent the spread"?
Rising Star
Everyone I have heard getting Covid recently has been vaxed and boosted, including This guy named Dr Fauci. So I would check your “science” before condemning people with a blanket statement.
If you want to do some research, watch how “follow the science” really means “follow the money” in America.
Chief
the money is in anti science
Why do you assume everyone who chose against getting the vaccine made that choice only out of blind stubbornness?
Thats just one of OPs many questionable assumptions and dogmatically held but unfounded beliefs. Some others:
- that the shots actually prevent infection or transmission
- that the pandemic and shot uptake is an us versus them issue
- that the problem is “them”
- that getting “them” to obey is a valid objective
- that the “right” course of action is so clearly and firmly established as correct and the solution and the wrong action (not getting shots) is so clearly dangerous and the problem that coercion, control, ostracism, etc should be self-righteously employed
- that there is no good reason for refusing the shots and the refusers are necessarily motivated by some combination of blindly stupid stubbornness, ignorance, anti-reason, anti-science, selfishness, or whatever
How many vaccine doses did fauci and Kamala have and they still got Covid? The answer is 4. A vaccine from almost two years ago no longer works just as the flu shot is annual. But then again the boosters aren’t really working either. Stop judging people for vaccine choices. If you’re so scared, put on 4 masks while walking outside
Chief
When the next pandemic comes in 100 years, we will all be dead. I think we can all realize now that regardless of whether you are vaccinated or not you will probably still get Covid at some point and regardless of whether you are vaccinated or not it will be a crapshoot how it affects you. And regardless of how many people are vaccinated or not immuno compromised people will still get Covid and probably die.
Rising Star
I see the loosening of vaccine requirements (at least in NYC) as more going on the theory that enough people are vaccinated at this point to control future spread. If people are concerned for themselves they can take extra precautions or stay home.
Rising Star
“Go away” - me
“These people”? Wow. The mind control experiment surely worked on you, didn’t it?
Regardless of vaccination status, everyone is getting this latest round of Covid. It’s now presenting like the common cold. In fact, studies are starting to show (like the one Walgreens did, for reference), that vaccinated individuals are testing positive for Covid at a higher rate than any other group. Go outside and build up your immunity and move on with your life.
Haven’t we basically seen time and time again the the vaccine is ineffective? It doesn’t prevent transmission at all, just “lessons the symptoms”. If you are worried, wear a mask.
One of the only vaccines that not only doesn’t prevent the virus it is for, it also doesn’t prevent spread by those vaccinated by it… yeah “they” are the problem….
I have employees who have been 2x vaxxed and boosted- all of them have had Covid more than the those who are unvaccinated- and typically I have to send them home from work as they come in with “mild symptoms” and think it’s fine because they’re vaxxed?
I don’t understand the OP’s attempt to vilify? If you are vaxxed aren’t you “protected?” The almighty our lord and savior Tony Fauci swore you were???
When individuals who are not vaccinated come into contact with the virus, there’s a higher likelihood that not only that they get it but that they have a severe reaction to it and anytime you get it and it is not suppressed because of antibodies or vaccines, there’s a chance that it mutates. That mutation could be harmful even to individuals who are vaccinated. Therefore unvaccinated individuals in society pose a risk to in the entire society because the virus has a higher likelihood of spreading and mutating.
Your authoritarianism is showing. None of your science religion works in case you haven't seen the numbers. It no longer prevents hospitalization etc of you look at what's happening globally, in fact, vaccinated individuals are more likely to be hospitalized than non. Also, perhaps you put your head in the sand with your rush to compliance and didn't read the last 3 Pfizer doc releases and understand the lsck of efficacy of their solution.
Chief
If a person is a loon, but they communicate correct information, the information is no less correct because spoken by a “loon.” We seem to have lost this concept. Truth is - regardless of who speaks it.
Are we getting played here? Is this more about getting engagement with a post?
Wake up…it doesn’t matter if you have the vaccine or not…you can still get Covid…
Its always the people who don’t exercise or eat healthy who want to yell at me about the vaccine lol. Mind your own business you dont even know how basic science works anyway.
Liberals used to hate big pharma but now love it for some reason? Be consistent. The vax does not even stop people from spreading it so your logic is lazy and irrational
Chief
I have wondered that myself. When did the left’s love of big pharma begin? It was never that way.
"let these people win"? you mean allowed people to make decisions about what they allow into their own bodies? Liberals are freaking ridiculous....and I shake my head at the fact that I used to be one.
EA1 glad you and I both saw the light and switched 😆
Over 2 years into the pandemic, neither my husband nor I ever got covid, despite not getting the vaccine. We did however, exercise regularly, eat plenty of fruits and veggies, get sunlight, etc. every single friend that got the vaccine still got COVID or a “rare” health complication. And you still think it’s all about us “refusing to comply” 🙄 it’s amazing you people would rather us lose our jobs than use our own prevention methods for a virus with 99% survival rate
You forgot to add the word "failed" in front of "vaccine". If you do that, you will see the reason that many people "refused to comply".
It is not a matter of "letting these people win" - it is a matter of actual facts, data, and science becoming clear as opposed to political pressures and narratives.
The government and corporate overreach when it came to the COVID response was grossly immoral and unethical.
And your insistence on demonizing those who exercised their human rights and made their own decisions is part of the problem.