Good evening all, I come to you for my first time seeking guidance. I've noticed a lot of others are facing the same obstacles as I am but I figured I'd give it a try.

I'm looking for a permanent role. Job market has been tough and I can't seem to land a role, let alone an interview.

I'm 31, bachelors in finance and economics, MBA, 8 + years of industry experience. Worked for companies such as Wells Fargo, US Bank, Schwab, the Dtcc and recently for the state of Nevada as a finance manager.

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How much have you been networking or reaching out to people who might be able to give you a referral? Only interviews I got last year were through referrals, even when I was perfectly qualified for the roles. I don't feel like any of my resumes were getting through otherwise. That's kind of the only advice I have. Not sure what else is working for others..

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I’m a year away from retirement, so you can consider this the opinion of an old fart, but I do have experience that might be instructive. I’ve gotten nearly every job I’ve had with the help of someone I knew, whether it be someone I worked or used to work with or someone I got to know (not just met) at networking events, conventions and conference hosted by professional organizations, chamber of commerce events and activities, my children’s schools, church, neighborhood gatherings, etc. It’s long been said, and I believe it’s still true, that the vast majority of desirable jobs are won that way.

I mean no offense because I’m from a different generation, but LinkedIn has very limited use, and the chances you’ll land something by using it seem small. I have used it to identify leads and potential inside tracks for my 401k work, and were I to be looking for a job, I would use it to see if I know anyone who works at the company I’m interested in working for. But the key is that for both uses, LinkedIn is only helpful if I already know the person. I certainly wouldn’t approach someone I only know from LinkedIn, just like I wouldn’t refer someone whom I only know from LinkedIn.

To me, networking to establish relationships is the most effective way to land a good job, find and win deals, and build a business.

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5 firms in 8 years might look like a red flag honestly. Not only that but if your average tenure at a firm is not even 1.5 years you dont really have a chance to see things get done/execute. My guess is your resume is reflecting this.

I had 3 firms in 8 years and most recruiters were auto rejecting me, and I was only 27 were it is a bit more excusable to be bouncing around,

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If I had to guess, I'd say longevity. Time in each job must be rather short. You seem to be landing jobs with great companies but only staying a very short while. I've learned that 5 years should be a good rule of thumb but I'm sure that will vary in the industry otherwise you could be viewed as a job hopper. I'm starting to think recruiters have an algorithm that calculates time in job as a requirement for applicants. If it's too short, you're immediately kicked out of the running without them ever seeing your name.

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Time at role depends in my experience. Consulting and banking is 1-2 years, industry 3-5. Just my two cents.

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Best of luck. I'm the same age and in the same boat. Hope you find a quality role very soon!

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Can't agree more with the comments around average tenure. Hiring company is making an investment that takes time and there is no way a firm is getting a return in that time frame. Unless a firm/role is unhealthy, you've got to see it through to 4-5 years. If you're going to respond that each of the roles left were unhealthy, there needs to be some introspection.

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I think it would help to define what you believe is a “permanent role“. What was it about the jobs that you had that caused you to leave?
You might be looking for a role with a different trajectory but you need to explain that. As others have said, several jobs in a short period of time is a red flag especially with quality companies.
As a hiring manager, assuming it gets past HR screening, I might bring someone in, but we’re going to spend half the interview talking about your former jobs and what you think is going to change with a different role in the company that I represent.

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you may want to consider something that might be a bit "below you" just to get in, I hear many do this just to et their foot in a door while either looking for something else or maybe move up where you get in i did that back in the 80s < last century> i guess it still holds today

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I do agree with the other comments regarding tenure but Try Vanguard.

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