Has anybody here worked somewhere *without* relentless animosity between creatives and account/marketing? It's exhausting.

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I have.

My first agency job, my account director was amazing. She was buttoned up, organized, whip smart. Her feedback was always pointed, on strategy, and helped improve the creative. She knew how to comment on the work without inserting subjective opinions or irrelevant bullshit.

My last account director was the same. She was super cool, and did her absolutely best to keep the client in check. She also went out of her way to put together quick decks and mock-ups to save the creative team the headache when the client was being irrational.

Good working relationships exist. I promise.

I’ve unfortunately had my share of awful work environments — once where our account person kept a running tally of all the times creative was being “stubborn” (read: when we wouldn’t just lay down and do what they said) and they’d tell on us to their boss every week.

The bad situations make you appreciate the good when they come around.

Just stand your ground. If account really makes your life miserable, raise the issue to your superiors. Make a lot of noise. I’ve gotten the worst of the team removed from my accounts a few times in the past because we refused to deal with ineptitude.

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Only when you’re making really good work or really terrible work. Anything in the middle gonna be game of thrones.

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Why?

my group has a really tight relationship with our account team.

Our creative department reports to the CMO and she’s really great. Trusts us without compromising her convictions and her feedback is usually fair/on-point. But in general I do believe that there’s a healthy level of friction that will always exist between marketing and creative. Trust built over time helps bridge that gap.

Um. Yes and no. No became yes because we talked things out. Like ‘hey please don’t just forward client feedback where they say things like, “this is terrible” bc 1 that hurts our feelings and 2 wtf would you forward that to us?! We’re all human and trying our best. Just talk abt it

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