Have you ever made less base salary than someone you supervise? Is that normal for lower-level managers, a good problem to have if you have an excellent team, or worth negotiating?

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It shouldn't be acceptable by a general understanding. Perhpas your subordinate is too demanding or you can be easily compromised upon. I had a similar scenario in my office where one of the girls in my team takes best advantage of trespassing directly to the owners and take best of benefits. I had a direct word with the owners to support and channelise it in right way.

Am not sure if that is your exact scenario just saying it across from my situation.

Wish you all the best :)

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Love hearing these thoughts and glad that I don’t sound totally naive to think this feels a little wrong. Thank you!!!

For context, I advocated for my best teammate to get a great promotion. I won those negotiations and got them a little under their ideal (which doesn’t seem off given the salary band for the new role and they were happy to know I tried to get the exact ask). I do think they earned it and was excited when I was able to tell them it was approved.

I think my issue was that someone above me saw all of that and then chose not to advocate 150% for me despite all the work me and this employee have built together and the fact that I trained them. They earned what they got but I think there’s some overall funkiness with middle-managers who have high-performers. I think more incentivizing is needed for managers of all levels to help those top people thrive and stay at a company as long as they can, while also not forgetting the average employees who might need more support/hands-on help to grow.

I def advocate for myself whenever I can but maybe I need to do more. Either way, I asked for a role checkin with my boss to get more details on why leadership made the calls they made there. Hoping it at least encourages some good conversation and forces more upward salary advocacy.

There are definitely situations where a manager can make less than an employee. Not sure if it applies here but remote work is a good example. If you have a worker in California and a manager in Missouri, the Californian may very well have a higher compensation. Also a tenured worker may be compensated better than a newer manager. I had an employee that made more than me in which both of these scenarios applied, but it didn’t bother me in the slightest as I felt like it was fair.

I’ve definitely had situations where individuals I managed made more than me. My perspective? If they have highly customized skills that differentiate them and that we need, then I’m happy to get them a commensurate salary. Even if it’s more than mine.

That said, I have also learned to advocate for myself, partially because of those employees. I’ve learned to leverage my also differentiated skills to raise my salary and title. Very happy with where I sit now!

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