Heard mention of giving a cash offer (with proof you have liquid assets to cover the purchase) and then using a mortgage anyway. Is that a thing? Didn’t make sense to me because cash advantage is quick closings and mortgage would take a while. Or is there more to it?

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I think the idea is to close with cash, then just “refinance” to get the cash out of the house. You get the advantage of leverage without the disadvantage of waiting for the mortgage company to do the appraisal, run the deal through underwriting, and fund the deal (which all takes time).

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yea cash was in context of a cash purchase (along with its accompanying things like able to bid lower), cash would come from selling index funds

otherwise it woulda meant holding a house-value’s worth in cash, which of course is terrible returns getting shaved by inflation

ig gotta weigh tax vs lower purchase price & higher interest when mortgaging an existing home

This is common. It’s not common for the everyday folks just looking to buy a primary home, but for people that are in the RE industry it’s a common strategy.

The main advantages:
1. Less time to close
2. Sellers are more likely to accept you offer once you show them proof of funds because you are seen a less risky buyer.
3. You can try to get a discount for buying in all cash based on the two reasons mentioned above.

Disadvantages:
1. If you are not able to pull out the majority of your cash through a refi, it’s not the best use of capital. The reason RE can get you really good returns is due to a large part of the debt (leverage) associated with the investment.

Once you buy the property (and make upgrades if you think it’s appropriate), you go to a lender and just ask for a refi. There is no taxes associated with the money you pull out from the refi because it’s technically debt you are putting on the property. The only thing you pay as a result of the refi are the fees your lender will charge you.

That’s basically it.

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Sure but long term is 7-10% and it’s also a significant amount of opportunity cost esp as it takes years to build up for cash purchase so a down year is unlikely to matter. When returns are low, interest will also be low.

For 20% down payments of course savings account is better, discussing cash purchasing tho.

While hindsight is 20/20, it is what got us here today and that is the growth numbers lot of folks are working with today. If it were a down year then we might not be having the discussion.

Yes, it is a thing. It is essentially hard money, rehab and, transition to traditional financing. If you have a working relationship with a lender, this is not an issue. There might be some seasoning required. Kind of like a slow BRRRR,

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