Base is at 180k, after tax, insurance , 401k and ESPP (max out), my bi-weekly pay is only like 3600 (like 8000 monthly). Can people really save this kind of money, or most people rely on their stock appreciation?

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but actually though

401(k) and ESPP *is* saving.

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gotta love these humble brags 🙄😒

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What the F do people spend money on blasting 8k per month? Spare me the ‘living is expensive’, I live in HCOL

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Yes even with those, 8k should be plenty.

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What more do you need to save lol, the answer is simple… don’t max out your ESPP 🙄. And yes, 8000 net is more than enough to shell out additional savings. Say your rent is like half of that at 4K… what are you spending the other 4 on.

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I don't know what I'm doin wrong then....different priorities

To give you some perspective, like 90% of the US lives on less than your after savings. Start with a spreadsheet of what you spend I'm a month and see if you'd like to continue with it or if you think it's more valuable to save more.

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Have you tried having a certain % of your paycheck automatically deposited into a separate savings account? I've had to do this because once it's in my main account, I tend to spend it. When you set it up like this, you get used to the lower amount after a short time and you no longer miss it. Out of sight, out of mind.

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If I can save on 1/3 of that, then you can too. You might just have to make some lifestyle adjustments

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Most ESPP allows you to save 15% of your gross paycheck taken out net, so it’s basically like saving 25% of your paycheck. That’s already a substantial amount of savings just from ESPP.

Apple limit is 10%, so that's only like 18k a year, with stock discount and appreciation, maybe 25k (before tax tho)

OP is asking if you can save. I think this is an honest question. If you live in a HCOL, have a home, have medical expenses, kids things add up. I make about this much but had a rough year with medical expenses and unexpected home expenses due to a storm and it made me realize I need to make a lot more to be safe in case of emergencies

Realize that OPs base of $180K only represents a fraction of his TC. With $180K base, bonus is likely 15-20% and RSUs likely another $50-100K+ per year.

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