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Hi I joined virtusa on 14June 2022.Hr just call me and ask me to submit few documents on the portal and after that no one call me even no one connected me for further process.I don't know anything regarding my project and all.Even they didn't ask me for any bank details and all anywhere.And also after submitting documents .I got an email saying onboarding completed we will verify it from their end.He even not responding to my call as I called her many times.can you guide what's happening??
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What kind of in house positions are you applying to, and what has been your practice while at the law firm? I see your linked in profile mentions complex commercial litigation and “business divorce”, what types of clients do you work with? Any specific industry? I will say, litigation in house positions are hard to find, most hire from their stable of outside counsel lawyers, and many require more legal experience than 4 years, particularly if you don’t have any labor and employment in your background.
Ultimately, I think you need more experience on transactional and corporate work if you’re trying to get a corporate counsel position. Based on your LinkedIn profile, I never would have put you in a corporate counsel role. Really figure out what kind of work you want to do, and not only highlight that experience in your resume but also in the work you do going forward so you can add that in. It doesn’t sound like you want to do litigation, but making a change in practice area while trying to go in house will be next to impossible.
If your current firm only gives you specialized work, look to go somewhere else - maybe try for a mid-size law firm doing general corporate work. That will give you broader experience to land a corporate counsel role.
Also, some product counsel roles have a “jack of all trades” kind of feel to them since you’re the lawyer for the product/service, you may be able to find one that fits with your accounting/finance background.
As others have said, networking is key. Keep in mind that a lot of in house counsel shops hire from their bench of outside counsel because they know you already understand the work and the company. If your current job isn’t giving you exposure to multiple clients and types of work, find a place that does.
Few tips after browsing (what I think was) all of your comments below:
1) Be more selective in where you apply, and focus your applications on things you're interested in. I saw you mentioned your interest in tech, but hone that further in terms of what work you want to be doing - figure out if you want to do privacy, licensing, corporate, real estate, etc.
2) If the role you're eyeing isn't firmly within your wheelhouse, consider moving to a firm where you'd do the sort of work you're interested in. In-house hiring has only gotten more competitive, and with in-house hires more and more juniors over the past few years, you are now fighting against waves of people who already have in-house experience in whatever sort of role you're looking to jump to.
3) I can't imagine anyone's resume lines up with 1300+ positions, and if it does, you're painting with broad strokes when you should be laser focused. Your resume experience should be tailored to the position you're applying. It's totally fine to have specific resumes for specific role types; just keep detailed notes so you aren't sending the same company wildly different resumes.
Good luck!
You’re welcome. When I decided I wanted to relocate and pivot back to the financial sector I utilized her services. I’m currently using them now to assist with my interview process. She helped me with my resume, interview prep, etc.
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1300?
Sorry. This sounds awful. Honestly I think you are applying to too many places. Are you taking the time to personalize your app to each place? Contacting HR and communicating why you think you’ll be a good fit? This is very important because I can always tell when people contact me about a job opening (I’m at a firm btw) and it is clear they know absolutely nothing about the role and they are just applying everywhere.
I was in a similar position for a couple of years… I had three interviews and was offered a position with my current employer. I had only applied to around 60-70 jobs I would guess. My current role I landed because it was a current client, who had witnessed my work on an ongoing matter over a period of 3 years. They weren’t rolling the dice, and my current boss was my in house contact when doing the outside counsel work, and we got along really well. Most people I know who go in house have been an outside counsel for the company/organization.
This is helpful information. I’m not sure how to ask referrals from those I worked with in conjunction with my clients case. Though, I wasn’t in BigLaw per se, we were collaborating with BigLaw and were up against largest defense firm in US. I feel like my relationship with them is through my client, so it feels a bit unethical; i.e, am I supposed to let my client know I’m reaching out to them?
I was applying for Associate Corporate Counsel or Corporate Counsel positions that require 3-5 years experience, mainly focused on contracts or general corporate work, not focused securities or employment law.
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Best bet is to switch law firm and do a new practice area.
What is your networking game looking like? 🧐
I second A1. Networking is key!
For what it’s worth, if this is for bigtech, 3-5 means 5-7 for most applicants.
That said, corporate counsels usually deal with commercial contracts and various BUs. Do you have any experience dealing with your client’s non-legal departments?
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Managers dont have time for that. Management is already a lot of work. Having to train someone from scratch is asking for trouble, which is why most don't hire for potential. But if we did, honestly, id hire on biglaw first then and you're not competitive there either.
It’s much harder to go in-house as a litigator, especially as plaintiff’s counsel. Also, your resume is way too cluttered. You should delete everything before the accounting experience (I.e. assistant, intern, bookkeeping) and combine duplicative college degrees. I rarely recommend working with recruiters, but in your case, it will probably help to work with a one to mark up your resume and apply on your behalf.
Was your accounting experience at an accounting firm? Perhaps try targeting in-house positions at accounting or consultancy firms where some familiarity with the business model would be helpful. If you’ve done accounting and then litigation, I don’t think you’d be a particularly strong candidate for general corporate work.
I would try to capitalize on that telecom experience then. Companies like it when they don’t have to start at zero with in-house counsel.