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Hidden perks of being a Senior Manager? No extra vacation, but larger purse for bravo. And higher pay (of course). What else?

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You can be an extra douche and people somewhat expect it.

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I pity my SM friends (senior here). It really is the shittiest spot in the firm. They open up to me all the time about it and how ridiculous all the partner BS is and how it's essentially just a ticking time bomb till a partner hates you and then tries to F up your career.

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$25 bucks more for dinner lol, but it actually is a noticeable difference. Higher level of business support services, e.g. Do your expenses for you, book travel, reserve office space, clean up and print/bind decks. Also have found expense auditors more lenient

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You see and hear all the Partner workings. No filter.

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You can work 15hrs a day on your own accord without some assh$&@ SM pushing you

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SM is validating. You made it to the executive level. You do get to hear partners talk unfiltered. That is the bonus. Pay, depends. My pay compared to other SMs and Directors sucks. I do make my own schedule which I like but the politics are daunting. You can also still be forced to go on projects and making numbers is huge which can suck. And One wrong Partner or another SM who has the "right" ties that dislikes you can dead your career.

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Depends on what you value. Pay raise is minimal. Freedom to do whatever the hell you want is awesome. Making numbers is now tough though - unless you have really good PPED connections, you are screwed. Suddenly no one wants you on their projects (rate too high), pursuits (you may take someone's sales credit), or accounts (god forbid you may steal important client relationships and then pocket sales). Competition gets cut throat. No more little bravo cards you used to get left and right. High year end ratings are now tough to get if you don't have a powerful partner behind you. Around E4 partners start to seriously question your promotion potential, so from then on you are in an "up or out" state. So yeah....

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^ I already started looking for a new job... just wanted the title!

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Any positive aspects to it outside of the $s at all?

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Carrot stick of Partner. SM role is the shittiest, but doesn't give you the right to be a POS to others.

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Don't "feel" like doing something ? Delegate.

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There are no perks to being SM that outweigh the crappiness of this level. SM is a means to an end. If you have no plans to be PPED, then leave.

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It's an interesting dichotomy- some the best SMs in my practice were hired as SMs. Some of the worst ahole SMs were promoted from within. Says a lot about the partners ... pretty much demotivated me from even trying to get promoted.

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Headed to a holiday party. quick: give me three interesting non controversial topics to talk about

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About to take an offer at EY. Want a baby soon and saw the great news about increased parental leave. Question is, can u use vacation time consecutively with it? Right now most on leave take 5 months

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Were you ever asked to burn your PTO and work just because your chargeability was not priced to win the work??? Happy Holidays yeh..!!

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So, you EYers want your PTO back? Well, as Carmeow DiSabio I deny this request!

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So with the unlimited PTO move - is EY now the new KPMG?

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EY - ladies, what to wear to the holiday party?!

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Vacation spot for thanksgiving: Is Vancouver considered a better place than Aruba?

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PwC peeps: I have over 135% utilization. Has anybody used G&A code instead of the vacation code? Since I don't see that I'll be on the bench anytime soon and that 30% has to go somewhere. Tips, ideas?

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Any good shows to get into for the upcoming holiday break? Something similar to Succession perhaps but open to any suggestions

Starting Wednesday after a 4 month summer vacation...

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Travelling to brazil for carnival. Gotta get zika in me and work from home for a couple weeks after vacation! #winning!

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Two Sigma does Two Sigma offer tuition reimbursement? How's PTO there?

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Coming back from vacation soon and have a pit in my stomach when I think about checking email/any PwC platform next week. 😖

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How is Deloitte with PTO? If I need to take a Thursday/Friday off- do they let me fly back on a Wednesday instead?

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Left a job in government (prosecution), currently at a mid-size firm. I’m really starting to not only hate law firm life, but the practice of law generally. Is this part of the transition? I left my last job because I was on-call 24/7. Now I’m 24/7 again but due to billable requirements. I have no hobbies, no free time, and only spend about an hour/day with my kids. Not sure I want this life. At least I had insane PTO for govt work.

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Great exit opportunity to a national NGO to lead their transformation COE. $ marginally less than what I make now, but overall better WLB. 5 weeks vacation, 15 sick days, reduced summer hours & they're looking to see if they can give me the extra 30k to pay back my signing bonus (since I'm leaving Acn within the year). It sounds amazing and meaningful work! A tiny part of me has Stockholm syndrome and nervous leaving Acn...

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Question for those who know the exit process at Deloitte: If you leave Deloitte (put in your two weeks) do they just pay you for your already earned unused PTO or do they ask you to take it instead of working your last two weeks?

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Why are people from EY posting on here? Enjoy your time off. Disconnect from work for 11 days.

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If you had the chance to become financially independent (i.e. interest from savings covers all expenses) within ~10 years, what would you be willing to sacrifice for that? Eg building and maintaining close relationships, free time to spend on your hobbies, time to go on vacation/relax, etc?

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Folks who’ve done their MS here (not MBA) - With 2-3 yrs of experience do you think a 1 page CV works or does one elaborate into 2 pages atleast. Also looking for perspective from folks who handle tech recruiting.

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To the Controllers out there, what is your salary and hours worked per week?

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If anyone can review my resume and provide some tips that will be truly great. Currently applying for financial analyst job, but no luck so far.

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Can someone explain why I have to do a 4th round interview with the same person that I did the 2nd round with (hiring manager)? We already spent an hour in the first interview I don’t get what else they are trying to accomplish by doing this.

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Our school uses Foss Kits for Science and I was told when students return, we will need to sanitize all items before and after each use. This doesn’t seem possible in a middle school setting where each period has a 4 minute break and 25 students in each period. What do you do in your classroom to minimize the amount of work needed to clean and sanitize items. I don’t want to short change the students’ hands-on experiences.

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Will Big 4 let you stay as SM if you don’t want to make partner but are still hitting SM targets? Once you take the promotion BS and partner-promotion-chasing out of the equation SM is quite fun!

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Newly promoted experienced hire SC making $113k, 10 YOE (switched industries). Got an offer from TCS in an Advisory practice (not the tech sweatshop stuff that I keep seeing people mention). Base salary is $190k and in TCS equivalent of a M role. Downside to taking the salary hike and boomeranging back to D in ~2 years? FYI - I have 2 kids, so that kind of pay raise is kind of a big deal.

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Who out of the big 4 does the most innovative/interesting work in Healthcare/life sciences? Currently at Deloitte

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I received an offer from Big 4 for an SC3 role. The offer states that I will be eligible for a salary adjustment in Oct 2022. What does this mean? Is that when annual raises occur, or will they review my performance and determine if I should be promoted to manager? I have enough YOE for a manager, but the team recommends that I come in as SC3 to learn how things are done since I have no prior consulting experience.

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I’m a new manager and am trying to get off a client. Need guidance if I should do it. I work with a very nice senior manager who is up for partner. She gave me a very decent review. The client is horrible though. Piecemeal review comments, constant updates workpapers and last minute changes. The only good thing is working with this senior manager. She is also my counselor. I asked her to get off of this account, and she said the firm probably won’t allow it. I have another senior manager I work

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Trying to prove a point - if you are 33 y/o with your MBA and in consulting (pricing or strategy preferred) can you please share your income??

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Anyone still looking for a referral to S&? We’re still hiring. Looking for SAs and above, all practice areas, all verticals. Must have some previous strategy project experience.

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Trump suspended immigration temporarily to US!

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Can you use your personal card for travel expenses or needs to be company Amex McKinsey & Company

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Have an offer in industry. It’s a relatively new company that is growing fast and lots of opportunity to move up quickly and make a difference. Salary increase wouldn’t be large but enough to make a difference. My heart wants to do it but there is risk involved - not as much stability as the Big 4 company I work for and I’m supporting a family. What do I do? Follow my passion or stay in the safe zone given things are still up in the air with Covid? I appreciate your opinion fishes!

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How are people "networking" now that we are wfh? I mean, you are barely even aware if people still work in the same company. Previously, you at least saw them every now and then at the office but now... They could have fired half the company and I wouldn't know

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Hello, can anyone tell me about css corp ? How's this company ? I got a good offer from this company but I am confused should I join this company? I have gone through some portal like Glassdoor, indeed etc . The feedback was not too bod and not good. If anyone here from css corp please help me. I got an offer for bangalore but Job location mentioned in offer letter is Chennai, hr said initially the project was for Chennai but now its extended to other cities but location will be bangalore

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How much is the health insurance premium in Deloitte for SM level. Currently exploring an opportunity. Recruiter tells that they can’t share the info till I sign the offer.

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A few years ago I landed an interview at W+K to for their lead social role. I didn’t get it. The guy who did was just promoted to…ECD of W+K in Portland. I work at a third-rate digital agency reporting to our head of strategy in a big network making boring decks for boring clients.

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