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.... Except it's now strategy & consulting so the projects are often mixed. So wlb difference between them is entirely dependent on the type of project and your team and how it was sold, not your department

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Yes, that's part of the reason for the shrink, op. Trying to standardise across roles in each location for the sake of fairness

To put it simply: More relaxed than you'll find at MBB. More than an industry job outside consulting. Say, about 12hrs on average

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I meant MC vs strategy at Accenture

I work less than 20 hours per week in MC (tech aligned)

I guess now it will be “platform”

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Genuinely, it's not "service" it's "personality - and probably: role models you take after".

The three most "workaholic" people I know at Accenture are currently aligned to "Client Group [Industry], Technology, Industry X". So nobody "S&C" even in the mix. Those people, you can easily get hold of on a Saturday night at 3am if you so please - no, that isn't healthy! Yes, they've all been handsomely rewarded for the "pleasure" (showing just how hypocritical firms get about WLB) in terms of both rank and compensation.

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A3, full agreement! See my longer post including "war story on the subject of how to office politics your team into refusing to work"!

The most "workaholic" person I have ever known, by the way, is aligned to CG PRD. Followed by "re-aligned several times over since I've known them: was initially in Technology Consulting (back when that was a thing, before it was abolished and the re-introduced), followed by Technology, now in IX".

I’ve heard many people refer to management consulting as strategy consulting or generalist consulting. It’s a bit hard to tell what you mean.

Genuine answer: it's the project, not the practice, and whoever tells you otherwise is taking major risks.

True story from many years ago: yours truly, newly promoted manager back in my day (and: aligned to neither, hence: no personal beef! - but I was designated "lead, on paper, no worries, it runs itself!") got to sort out the following problem:

Deal was staffed Strategy/Technology. Strategy had the "leadership" type roles and Tech was meant to be doing the "doing". Deal wasn't going too well. As in: everyone was working 12+ hour days, and it was still behind schedule.

Enter my genius colleague, a.k.a. "Manager, Strategy": things were going reasonably alright, considering the fact that they already weren't (see above). Until "genius" decided to do the "inspiring leadership speech" thing:

Cue Strategy Manager saying out loud to a team of 7 Technology Analysts: "I am amazed at your tenacity - personally, I'd been operating under the assumption that Tech folks just go home at 5pm, no matter what! You are amazing for people whom noone would expect to do much of value!"

Cue: 7 Tech analysts deciding that one definitely should be going home at 5pm if the alternative was "get insulted by boss - same boss who also gets to be roasted over "why is this not working?!"

How I, literally, got the 7 analysts back to being willing to do any useful work at all, how I replaced Strategy Manager with "literally anyone who will not insult the team into refusing to work", and how I rescued that deal was "how I made my L6 promotion".

Long story short: try not to judge "who works how much" based on Service. It may come to bite you in the butt!

(For the record: I wasn't personally present for the "speech" part - I was, however, told 7 very consistently similar stories by 7 different people on the occasion of "okay, so, your boss is telling me you are refusing to work, and: on paper, I'm his boss ... tell me what the problem is, please!". I can also attest to the same crew going back to insane hours after I replaced said boss with one who didn't insult them.)

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