How long does it take to draft a 5-pager pre-appeal brief? Is it fair to estimate a little longer than an office action reply or should I block off more time?

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Yes, around the same or a bit more than an OA. Usually pre-appeal brief will focus on a specific issue where the examiner clearly erred (not the full merits of the appeal)

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