How long is too long to try to push back a start date? Getting a formal offer early next week but trying to keep that big law bonus if possible. Firm pays out bonuses Dec 30 & I have a vacation scheduled Dec 19-23 (and was planning on working remotely the week after too). Ideally want to get EOY bonus or negotiate for a signing bonus but is it too much to push for signing bonus and those weeks off? I'm open to working remotely those two weeks but know that may not be the best when I start.

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Just tell the new gig that you have a big bonus coming that you can’t miss out on and that if they match it you are happy to start early but if not then you want to wait to receive your bonus. They’ll understand.

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Employers are generally aware of this situation at this time of year and will be willing to make you whole or wait for you to get your bonus unless it is more than a few months.

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Same boat. Explained the situation and they pushed my start date.

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I got an offer in late October, accepted around Nov 1, and pushed my start to Jan 1. Best professional decision I’ve ever made.

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Just ask them to make you whole on your bonus - if they can’t, negotiate a prolonged start date post bonus payout

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It may take a lot longer for the offer to be final than you think. I was worried about an Oct 1 bonus when I got a verbal offer mid august, but the offer didn’t end up being fully signed until like sept 23. You’re getting the formal offer, but you still need to negotiate it, and going back and forth about specific terms could take a week or 2. At that point it will be November and you can say you need 4 weeks from signed offer anyways, and since it’s close to bonus season jan makes more sense to start

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Yeah you’ll want to give notice after bonus. Mine was different because it was already owed

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Last time I did this years ago I demanded and got 30 days to start after I left my previous firm. I tried to postpone it further, but got “no, we really need you to take over this huge case we hired you for.” But 30 days was good. For some unknown stupid reason, the first time I switched big law firms I didn’t take any time off, so the second time I perhaps tried to over correct my previous mistake.

Pushing into next year is tough if they are on a calendar fiscal year. For budget purposes they likely need you to start this year

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