I am constantly worried this life I’ve built will be taken away from me in an instant. That I’ll lose my job and never get hired again then lose my house. As soon as I was responsible for more than myself, this feeling of impending doom has followed me. I don’t know if it was growing up poor, getting into the industry later than most or what, but this worry keeps me debilitatingly risk averse. I tend to be more comfortable over performing in my role. I haven’t asked for a promotion in 6 years...

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You’re not alone. I worry if I leave my current job I may not be employed in advertising again. Over 50 female here.
Considering other things I could do as we speak actually and trying to prepare for the loss in income.

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European’s call this The American Fear. They don’t have it because their support systems, safety net and labor protections haven’t been gutted and stripped away like ours have.

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It’s the same in Canada though. I see people (especially creatives) get aged out, and only the very best continue to work past 45. It’s terrible and infuriating.

No you are not alone - this is a high risk industry with skills that are not always transferable to other lucrative industries. Few years ago, I deliberately grew my skill set to make sure I was employable in the future. Definitely has broadened my expertise and made me more prepared and confident. Maybe this would help you, too?

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I’m always broadening my skill set. To the point I am considering transitioning out of creative.

You’re not the only one. I have the same anxieties. Lots of colleagues do too.

I guess it’s a combination of seeing how the past has played out for older creatives and how much older and expensive you become as you go on in this business.

I got in this business really young. Came from a poor upbringing. And essentially got in to advertising to dig my way out of that hole.

Just keep challenging yourself. Do better work. Start mentoring and managing the younger creatives. Track how your work influences the bottom line. And constantly be your best advocate.

This career is a crap shoot. Sometimes you’re up. Sometimes you’re down. But don’t get down on yourself or your abilities. Confidence plays a huge role in survival.

Good luck out there.

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It all depends on where you work and who you work for. If they’re supportive of your ideas and what you contribute, then they’ll be supportive of a promotion.

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I was this way in my first agency role. Started late (34), surrounded by toxic twentysomething dudebros who thought unfuckable women might as well be dead. Let them block me from progressing. Started believing no other agency would hire me. 5 years and many antidepressant refills later, I had the courage to leave.

Fastforward... I was laid off from my latest job in July and no employer will even interview me. So you aren’t wrong.

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I relate to this. My first agency job was all dudebros and it was the pits. FWIW, I’m sure it’s not over for you.

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You are not alone. Also: congratulations on where you made it to. ❤️

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Thank you. I am extremely grateful that I’ve made it this long.

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I’ve had this mindset and anxiety for most of my life. It’s like a shadow that follows me. A combination of good luck, a loving wife and medication + cognitive behavioral therapy have helped somewhat.

But life experiences and my DNA make me somewhat hardwired for this. During the last recession I almost broke down after a few layoffs. I had less than a month’s rent in the bank before I got a lucky break and was hired.

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Hip, Hip, Hooray for lucky breaks! 👊🏼

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Am I alone in this? Please tell me I’m not.

How are you people all so confident and entitled (in a good way)? How do you do it?

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Not alone. I’m in leadership and feel super privileged to be in my position. But I am petrified that I wouldn’t find another job if let go.

Unless it’s a lateral move (which there aren’t a lot of) I’m already hearing the, sorry you’re over qualified for the position. “We just don’t think you’ll be happy going back to DOING the work.”

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This is part of the reason I’ve been taking it slow. But I also don’t want to progress so slowly people assume it’s because I can’t. But I’m sorry you’re getting that push back. It doesn’t make sense. Why wouldn’t you want someone with experience?

A constant struggle and mental fight everyday.... with the pressure if you are as good as your last work. I feel you and wish our industry was
Different but like other types of discrimination Ageism is alive and kicking in advertising

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You are not alone. At all. You could preemptively work toward long term goal. I knew my advertising days were numbered so I decided to jump ship before I was pushed out by someone else. I looked hard and got a job client side.
Yes it’s really hard. Because I still love design and advertising and I know the work I’ll be doing won’t be as sexy or exciting but I like to think I had a good long run at ad agencies and got some interesting stuff out of my tenure in the industry.
Don’t let yourself be overwhelmed by anxiety and fear. Instead use that energy for what comes next.

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You are not alone at all. It’s actually a big reason why I’ve put off having kids myself. I’m stressed out enough as it is with the industry/job uncertainty. I think I’d fall apart at the seams if I had a kid to think about.

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It definitely raises the stakes.

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That’s why I’m transitioning to a more content strategist role. I still get to write copy and concept but most of my day to day is at a higher level, but it seems to have more growth opportunities than Creative

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I have these fears constantly. The imposter syndrome isn’t helping either. But I’m good at compartmentalizing and have pushed those fears into their own little room. Some day they’ll pick the lock and I’ll need some serious therapy. But not today.

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