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The risk to you by staying is that they're aware you are willing (and potentially still aiming) to leave. They weren't willing to let you walk.... that quickly. Now they have time to create contingencies or even recruit someone else at 90K and let you go.
And have you train the new person and let you go with no notice. Sorry, but that happens.
When a company only amplifies your worth after you’ve packed your bags, it calls into question how they measure contribution, how they handle retention, and how deeply they listen. That feeling you have? That nagging sense of being valued only when leaving—it’s valid, and it’s wise to pay attention to it.
Yes, you love the people. Yes, the work-life balance is healthy. But compensation is not just a paycheck—it’s a signal of respect, appreciation, and investment in your future. If that respect only surfaces in crisis, it may not be sustainable.
Before deciding, ask yourself:
Will staying rebuild your trust in leadership?
Is this counteroffer part of a long-term plan, or a short-term fix?
Do you have clarity and transparency around future growth?
If you decide to stay, make sure you get more than a number. Ask for a written plan for advancement. Confirm that this isn’t just a rescue move—it’s a commitment.
But if you walk away, walk with your head high. Not out of anger, but out of alignment. Sometimes honoring yourself means leaving comfort for clarity.
I agree with this 100%
I would not take the counter-offer. There is something suspicious about this sudden re-evaluation of your value; I think you're about to see that WLB you value become 75% more about W. They under-valued you once. They're about to do the same but now the value they're expecting you to exceed is far higher.
They will wait until the other offer is unavailable, then re-assign you duties from someone who is retiring to go with your original ones.
This never, ever, goes well. Leave. Let them see how much you were truly worth to the business. This would be a trap.
I agree. Go with your gut as you are the one in the hot seat. But I see the axe coming. Go on to new opportunities and GROW!
1. congrats on both offers
2. try to see if new job will counter this 130k offer
3. depending on where you are in your career, I would personally stay in this current company because I like the people and WLB. your main factor was salary, which has increased substantially. i would stay
Same. Unless i'm looking for growth and learning, because I think spending too much time in one company can make you a bit dull.
Just looking at the numbers, I'd say you really have no choice but to stay. But something just seems off about it. Your boss is offering you a 75% raise. That just seems too good to be true, so I'd be wary of putting my trust in it. I'd be worried that you'll accept the counteroffer and it'll be rescinded or there will be some catch to it.
I agree with this. I know of someone that was offered a job and then the place she was working offered her more money. So she turned down the job and then they never came through with the raise. She was lucky the job was still available and they gave it to her.
If I was you, I'd leave for the new job. I wouldn't trust an employer that initially $3,500 and now almost doubled your pay, why? I feel like the are playing a game. I would approach the new employer and see if they can at least add something, and even if they don't, I will go with the new employer. Also, I hava seen cases where the current employer matched the pay and after a couple months the role is eliminated.
I'm normally of the opinion that once you put in your notice, you should never turn back. But in your position, I would have a really hard time doing that. You like the job, it has good WLB, and the counter offer is $30k more than you'd get if you left. The only downside is that your trustworthiness has taken a hit, but I think the upside makes up for it.
Agree--about not staying once you get an offer. But usually companies counter with whatever the other company is offering you and not with $30k more. Some companies really do value you but they're also looking out for their bottom line. Seems like the $3.5k raise was just that. But they also know how difficult it can be to backfill certain roles and if you're serious enough to get that competitive of an offer, and they realize your worth, they'll do what they need to keep you. Based on what you've said about the job I'd probably stay with the new salary.
That 130k should’ve been offered beforehand. Take the other job
I would definitely stay. A job that you like making significantly more than you're currently making is a beautiful thing. You can always leave again, but an extra $45,000 a year is huge.
Hello and congrats on a new offer on a tight market, and the counter-offer most likely because you advocated for yourself and your current boss respects you (even if they don't say it).
A few things for your consideration (Note: Your answers are just for you, but it's great if you can reply with comments about some of them, too.)
1. How are the dynamics between your boss and you? Do you have a good rapport and would they make this counter and then lay you off, possibly?
2. If sounds like you have red-flags about this especially because it's frustrating they acknowledged you because of this situation. However, this counter may also indicate they've had a big wake up call about differentiators unique to you. What else could be influencing this counter especially lagging corporate strategy KPIs and unique differentiating factors about you?
3. If you accept it, whatelse do you want to include with it such as,
a 1, 2 or 3 yr guarantee contract for you (especially if a new boss comes in or other issues), certification/course programs, a promotion plan for you, anything you'd like to do more of, increase in stock awards programs, a OKR review, etc.?
4. Does the counter come with more expectations of you?
5. Have you done a matrix grid to compare them (i.e. Glassdoor, LinkedIn, Capterra, Gartner, Crunch base, Customer reviews) including soundness, compensation levels, any reg issues, complaints, reputation risks and any flags in their prior 2 annual plans?
Please keep us updated and congrats, again!
If you stay, they will likely be prepping your replacement. Of course, the other job could be gone in a year. Jobs are not wives—they’re girlfriends. Always be looking, even when you have one. Take the new job and let your boss know what it feels like to loose you. Maybe you’ll both find new love ❤️!
What Citi 1 said... exactly that...
It's a big offer. Have you considered that your boss didn't actually have final say in the initial raise and would have offered you more than 3.5k if they had the choice? Now that you've said you're actually willing to leave the issue could have been escalated higher in the organisation and your boss might have done such a good job at showing your value in a business case that they've proposed such a large raise to keep you. I wouldn't focus on the initial raise, if you like everything else about the company then I'd take the offer.
ask the new job offer is they can level up to 130K first
that would be about $15 more pr hour.. they might balk at that and retract the offer
i would put a list of pro's and con's together. But you have already answered your own question. If you do decide to stay i would definately have them put that in salary in writing.
Stop it. This is a business transaction on all parts. Do what’s best for you. This is not about personal feelings. This is a business transaction.
If you accept the counter offer you now have a target on your back because they will think you always have one foot out the door. What is sketchy is they are wanting to give you a 50k bump . That seems great but what is the catch. Choose wisely
I would be weary of staying for that much of a raise. If I were you, I would see about getting something in writing that says you'd get that for 1 or 2 years. What's to stop the company from terminating you after you decide to stay and they cut the position? All hypothetical, but depending on the state, they may not need much to let you go. I completely understand the frustration on the initial raise.
These are questions I would ask my employees before they left:
1) Is it a better position for you (mentally/emotionally) and your family?
2) What do the benefits look like for the future company compared to the current company?
3) Is it worth giving up the amount of time you've been at the current employer?
Keep us posted!
Take the new job. Your current company will look at what you have done as a negative and they will only remember you wanted to leave, and stayed only for money, not because you liked the work and the company. The $130K is suspicious. If you are a key employee, they will keep you long enough to train your (cheaper) replacement.
Acknowledging every situation differs with wide variations, my general advice to counter-offers is, do not take them. Here's why - the moment you've shared about the external opportunity with significantly higher compensation, the bridge between you and the company has already burnt. From company's perspective, you're marked as a flight risk the moment you share this information, and they have every reason to seek for a replacement.
In your situation, you're being offered something that seems to be very generous on the surface and the actual goal from your current company's perspective is to keep you around so that they can find a replacement and finish knowledge-transfer/training. When that's done there is a high likelihood that you'll be dismissed.
If I were you, I'd just take the offer from outside and move on.
Your boss probably went to bat for you when you said you were planning to leave and asked to be paid what you're worth. Higher-ups often won't approve raises unless they feel they have to; especially if they think you'll stay anyway.
But from their perspective, if you leave, they'd have to go through the whole process of hiring and training someone new. That person might even ask for more than $75K, and it would cost them time and resources to get them up to speed. So keeping you is actually the smarter, more cost-effective choice for them
You should have already been paid a salary of what you are worth. Has it really taken them by surprise that you a worth more? They knew that all along...just went with the status quo instead of allowing you to know you had a lot more assets and value to be compensated for. Shady and advantage taking for too long in my opinion. What will you have to do next? Que, the circus music...twirl plates, juggle, high wire act? When will they let you know you have more compensable value as you move forward?