I hate how billable hours are inextricably tied to your sense of worth/achievement in this job

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Yep. The cyclical ten hour billable days followed by one hour ones are killer too. My significant other will often ask what’s wrong on the latter days and the answer inevitably is that I didn’t do enough that day. I know, I know, it all evens out in the wash but in the instant it’s hard to ignore the siren call of NEED MORE HOURS.

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I went in-house for 2 years and for the first 6 months all I could think was "how is my usefulness to the company measured if there's no billable hour?"

This billable hour system really breaks you.

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So true. I just moved in-house and I keep thinking about switching timers every time I work on a new thing. It’s like deeply embedded in my brain and work habits.

Every time I see one of those "~your worth is not measured by your productivity~" posts on IG I want to scream

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The worst are the comparisons. A coworker is constantly billing 10 hr days while I average about 7.5, but I know it takes him two times longer than me to do the same tasks. I’m getting great reviews for my responsiveness and work quality, but he will probably be eligible for the higher bonus just because he works at a slower pace overall.

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As someone who is probably the slow associate in this scenario…. I would love to do things faster! Please teach me your ways 😂 I don’t care about the bonus I just wanna work less. I get this totally from your perspective and it is why the billable model sucks. But trust me, I hate that everything takes me forever.

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Alright all. What are we grooving to while churning out these late night billable hours? Always looking for some new tunes to break up the deafening clacking of my keyboard at midnight.

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Any tips for meeting billable targets?

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16 weeks and so worried all of the stress I’m under is going to hurt the baby. Between work, my own scary (non-pregnancy) health stuff, the pandemic, my mom (who is a widow and lives alone, basically isolated by choice due to covid) is having health issues, and pressures to keep billable hours up, I’ve been having complete breakdowns. Today I spent almost the entire day crying and now have to make up the billable time this weekend. I really worry abt what effect this will have on the babe.

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Everyday I can’t seem to hit the required billable hours. I’m overwhelmed by emails and people asking me where an item is. I feel like I’m not good enough. I keep making mistakes I shouldn’t make at my level. I wish I could just quit so I wouldn’t have to be miserable everyday.

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Honest discussion about burn out: it is with you for the long run.
I burnt out at my last job and the job before that and now I’m at a really good firm that has no set billable hours and a really manageable workload, but it’s still difficult to get any work done. It will take a long time to fully recover from burn out.

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Received a job offer. Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on a concern I had about it. It's an entry level position, and I don't have much experience. The billables are 2040 a year. For billable hours in civil litigation and insurance defense, is 2040 hours for a 1st year associate on the high end in this field for a small or midsize firm? It seems like most attorneys I know have minimum requirements of around 1800. The compensation is around 80k a year.

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Did the billable hours bonus not get paid out today? Or is it to be paid in the next check?

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