I work at a firm with 1650 billables. The partner said we should aim to bill 35-40 hours a week to account for periods when it is slow.

Just curious, for firms with 1800 billables… how much do you realistically aim to bill a week to hit your annual target?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I target 35-40 a week at a 1,950 target firm. Some weeks are 40-50, others 30-35. Somewhat out of your control. I don’t work Sundays either.

It helps when some vacation time counts toward the bonus target. My old firm didn’t do that, but my new firm does and it’s great.

like

These numbers are crazy too me. I own a family law firm and the minimums are 1000 on billed to invoice and collected. We have a nice bonus structure for all collected billables over 1000.

likeuplifting

Billable hours are the worst 🙃 Why did our profession decide that measuring our lives in 0.1 increments was a good idea?!

like

I used to target 45 hours at a 1,950 hour requirement. At 50 weeks that was 2,250 annualized, which is pretty close to where I was billing as an associate (1,950 target notwithstanding).

Now that I’m at an 1,800 hour shop I tell my mentees to target 38/week. At 50 weeks that gets you to 1,900, and gives a little wiggle room for vacations and slower weeks.

like

I target billing as much as I can. My firm’s work flow is so inconsistent that I’ve been billing 45-50 hours a week for the last 6 weeks and still haven’t made up for how slow Q1 was. Minimum of 1850.

like

Some areas are notoriously bad-like M&A. Either crazy busy or crazy anxious

like

As a quick rule of thumb I do target divided by 48

like

Thank you, this is helpful. Currently hoping to switch firms and that sounds doable. That’s awesome that your firm counts some vacation.

like

At 1800, with 3 weeks’ vacation and 3 weeks’ holiday/sick/PTO, that’s an average of 40. But with all the non-billable stuff we do, in my experience that’s an average of between 45-50 per week WORKING hours. And that’s an average; front-load as early in the year as possible so you aren’t panicking at the end or slow p periods catch you by surprise.

like

Thanks all, this has been very helpful.

4th year $140k M&A

Related Posts

Hi DC fish, what are your favorite local charities and nonprofit organizations? Alternative question, how have your firms been engaging with them in the past year (i.e. remotely)? Looking for ideas for my firm to have a more tangible impact in the upcoming year. Thanks so much!

like

Hi Fishes,
Can anyone refer me
JPMorgan Chase for associate profile I have the job id with me

like

Hardest part of navigating maternity leave and WLB as a junior partner?

like

What is the most “do as I say, not as I do” thing you’ve been told or punished/reprimaded for as an associate?

like

What do you do about computer problems? It just took me 24 minutes to send a .1 email due to my computer constantly freezing. Is it worth entering that time into non-billable? Or do I just stop whining and work longer to make it up?

like

Those who are voluntarily returning to the office — how often are you going and what days seem to work for you? Looking to slowly incorporate a few days here and there for change of scenery etc. — will add there is no pressure to do so (yet).

like

I'm about to start my first travel case. SPG or Accor?

funnylike

How much an EXL pay for 3.5 YOE data engineer?

like

Hey Fishies need a recommendation on an international coaching certification. I am a senior HR professional with SPHR and SHRM-SCP certification. I am interested in coaching for career advancement. Thank you for your recommendations

like

What is the best way to attract a new mate? I got out of a 7 year relationship (he was cheating on me for half of it) and I’m so confused on where to even start. I have a therapist and working on my trust issues - but I have self confidence issues. I’ve been burned for being ‘unattractive’. But I’ve seen girls that are objectively more unattractive than me have mates. So it must be a confidence issue? Those girls seem to glow while I am so sad. Or it’s the guys I go on dates with?

like

Looks very windy at cota…

like

Hi fishes
currently working in India with salary of 37lpa and over 7 year of experience as senior data analyst. Recently got a call from a company in Tallin Estonia. What is the average salary in Estonia for 7+ year experience as senior data analyst. And is it recommended to go with the opportunity.

like

Hi,
There was a post sometime back which compiled a list of all companies by country who hire directly from India. Could anyone please share a link to that post if you have it saved? Thank you!

like

Selling Mercedes CLA-45 AMG Black 23kmiles loaded $33kOBO (Southern Cali)

Post Photo
likefunny

Selling my 2020 MB E450 in excellent condition and 14k miles. DM if interested or know someone in the market!

Probable in hand salary for given fixed salary

Dobara mat puchna😁

A step towards Atma-nirbhar Bharat!! 😁

Post Photo
likefunny

Thoughts on Ted & Lemon laces? I'm thinking about grabbing a few brighter colors to pair with some oxfords.

Hassan Minhaj - Kings Jester on Netflix — with 14.07 remaining. Could someone help me identify this?

Post Photo
like

…wtf I thought this was a joke, but it’s real?! 🤮 What is AP doing?

Post Photo
likefunny

Hi all,i have been taking interviews for my department since the last 3 months.Should the company be paying me for the extra efforts?

like

Additional Posts in Law

I recently had a specialist partner send me a fairly nasty email after I (a transactional first year) was told to ask them to review something ASAP that had clearly been on my partner’s radar for over a week. Why am I taking the (honestly justified) blame for this? Surely it should be obvious that I’m just the messenger here.

like

Has anyone taken  ACAMS Certified Global Sanctions Specialist (CGSS)? Any comments/ reviews? How has it enhanced your employability? Why did you take the CGSS?

like

Hardest part of navigating maternity leave and WLB as a junior partner?

like

What is the most “do as I say, not as I do” thing you’ve been told or punished/reprimaded for as an associate?

like

What do you do about computer problems? It just took me 24 minutes to send a .1 email due to my computer constantly freezing. Is it worth entering that time into non-billable? Or do I just stop whining and work longer to make it up?

like

Those who are voluntarily returning to the office — how often are you going and what days seem to work for you? Looking to slowly incorporate a few days here and there for change of scenery etc. — will add there is no pressure to do so (yet).

like

Can you share first year salary for midsize firms? I'm in NJ, but curious to hear other markets. Also billable targets? Thanks!

like

I don’t want to make partner, and I want to stay in big law for 2-3 years, do you suggest I just do the bare minimum for hours or should I still be doing as much work as possible?

like

Any thoughts on Phillips Lytle? If you could please provide insight on culture/billable requirements? Thank you.

like

I'm a long time prosecutor getting into the ID game and billable hours. Are there any resources out there that can help me get more effective/efficient without spending months/years learning the hard way? Some days I'm at the office 10 hours, took virtually no breaks and yet only bill 7. 🤬

like

Tips on discussing reimbursement for travel expenses during the “interview” process? I was invited to travel to a different state to discuss joining a firm. Should I even bring up the topic of expenses , or just pay my own way?

like

How do y’all deal with burnout? First year already billed 1900 since Jan. I feel like I’m tired and uninterested in work all the time now.

like

Anyone keeping tabs on the Darrell Brooks trial? Prime sovereign citizen nonsense.

like

I am traveling out of town for callback interviews. One firm wants me to commit a full day of interviews. Would it be reasonable to ask for a half day so I can fit 2 callbacks in the same day?

like

I was hired by client to draft a form MSA and SOW (the client is a freelance HR coach). She showed her form to another freelance HR coach and now they want to use the form I made for my client and my clients asking if that’s ok? Any advice?

like

I am looking for the post made by the junior associate with the voicemail from the female partner on a Friday night telling her how stupid she is. I didn’t bookmark the voicemail and I wanted to show it to a colleague to show her there are worse bosses than ours. Lol. It was circulating a couple of months ago. I believe it was a New York firm.

like

Can anyone provide any insight on what it's like working in Sidley Austin's London office? Culture, target hours, work life balance etc

like

How often do temporary "might-become-permanent" type jobs (at small/mid size firms) actually become permanent?

like

Career Sabbatical?

Can anyone who has taken a career sabbatical to travel/explore other interests share their experience with both leaving their jobs and returning to the legal field?
I really want to live in Asia for a year at least before I have to settle down and start a family. I’m not getting younger but don’t want to be reckless with my career.

like

Idk, maybe it’s time we bring these engineers and techs down. If my 🧠 links to a 💻 , all of my non-billable work will come to light. 😤

Post Photo
like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal