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I’ve got mixed emotions.
I don’t think most people abuse being home. And I do think there is a loss to culture and learning curve, especially for less senior people.
That said, if everyone isn’t in, it’s a waste of time for the most part. And it puts a financial burden on people who have to go in that is often not compensated vs the fully remote workers. And finally, we all managed for several years.
So until a proper balance is found on how to distribute it the burdens and benefits, it’s just going to be divisive.
Very well said Exec Creative Director I.
I’ve noticed a few comments suggesting that some directors or managers are skeptical when people say working from home is important to them.
I used to be firmly in the “everyone should be in the office” camp. But during COVID, when I started working from home, I realized something simple: I actually got more done.
What I’ve come to understand is that the issue usually isn’t the workers, it’s management. Too often, management isn’t really managing. They collect a paycheck, and mistake visibility for productivity. They feel a sense of control just by seeing someone sitting at a desk.
But that’s not managing performance. Whether someone works from home or in an office shouldn’t matter. What matters is whether the work is getting done, and that’s the manager’s responsibility to track, define, and enforce.
Remote work also removes unnecessary commute time and distractions, which often improves output.
The reality is, corporate loyalty isn’t what it used to be, on either side. So it makes sense that younger workers are pushing back on outdated expectations. If employers want results, they need to focus on accountability and outcomes, not just presence.
whatever they were hired to do, they weren’t hired to make decisions on remote work not, that’s Dimon’s job, and they weren’t hired to manage WFH, prior to the pandemic, what were their responsibilities? that’s their job, back then it didn’t involve managing WFH did it?
A large number of answers but none responding to what the OP asked. All I can see is just a bunch of adults throwing their toys out of their prams because an individual would prefer being remote.
This person might struggle with anxiety or other mental/physical problems and while is choosing to work and not sit at home on benefits X,Y and Z are debating their life choices.
These directors have too much time on their hands. Ffs.
well, it takes two to tango, these directors only post in response to people attacking them, so ask yourself why did you feel the need to attack other people just because you don’t agree with their opinions
Datavant is a solid WFH company. The most senior execs work out of a NYC office and travel to some other offices (Atlanta, Phoenix, Dublin) to meet with clients. But the rest of the employees are all WFH, with an on-site or two during the year sprinkled in. Depending on the job, you may travel more than others (sales and client management teams travel pretty frequently)
Real estate agents can WFH.
They can’t tell that you’re not busy just because you’re in the office. Everyone knows how to fake looking busy regardless.
But those big issues you bring up are serious and if that’s a concern of the employer then they need to be better at hiring. I’ve never known anyone to abuse remote privileges in the way you’ve described, which leads me to believe that the employer has serious issues - are they not paying their people enough? Are they being too strict and not allowing flexibility for people to have normal lives? Something is super suspect if those are the issues to worry about.
And I agree, regardless of whether employers value employees’ happiness (which they should), the employee ultimately has the choice to leave, theoretically, if the job market wasn’t so bad. That’s not going to be the end of this debate though, and both sides have worthwhile and valid POVs.
They can’t tell 100%, but more so than when people WFH where they totally can’t see you.
No, they don’t need to be better at hiring — they can simply enforce RTO — problem solved. These aren’t employer issues, these are employees issues, it’s human nature, unless you hire employees who aren’t humans. Paying enough? Nothing is ever enough, people always want more, again, human nature. Also, why bother paying more if they can just force RTO — it’s cheap and easy for them and very effective, as opposed to giving everyone a big raise. It’s not a debate — Jamie Dimon said 5 days RTO, that’s it. He doesn’t need to negotiate. Most employees won’t leave as they have bills to pay and everywhere else is also RTO.
honestly, good luck. there are tons of individuals applying for WFH jobs…I’m one of them.
I completely understand this. Remote work is not about avoiding work — it’s about efficiency, focus, and quality of life. If the team is already spread out and most collaboration is happening on Zoom anyway, requiring people to commute just to sit in virtual meetings feels unnecessary. Companies that offer true remote flexibility will continue to attract strong talent.
Operations Manager 1 you definitely do not look like you’re over 50 let alone pushing 60!!!! What do you do to keep looking so youthful?
unfortunately so mnay remote positions now are being doen away with because the people applying dont even live inthe US, and are applying outside the country, look itup, its widespread , companies finding out thier remote employees are REALLY remote.
I guess it depends on the company. To respond to the OP's original question. I worked for CareCentrix for about 6 years. I would've still been there if I didn't need to leave to become the fulltime caretaker for my mother. 98% of the company roles are remote. Excellent company to work for and I really enjoyed my employment with them. Compensation, benefits, and annual bonuses were also fair and some of the best I've had in my 15 years of experience in my field, and I've worked for PWC, BCBS, and State Government.
If a Manager is adamant that you work in the office I think it may be about their micromanagement.
Sounds like your Manager is being micromanaged and doesn’t support his/her team members.
Director 2 you DO monitor bathroom breaks, don’t you? 🙄
you DO have something to hide, don’t you 🙄
Director 3 please share with the class your proof that “many” have abused WFH. We need numbers and percentages, not just your feeling that “many” have abused it.
Please share with the class your proof that not many have abused WFH. We need numbers and percentages, not just your feeling that not many have abused it.
DCC II 1: I was just going to say that. They’re all up and down this thread. I didn’t write half or even a quarter of the amount these directors did but I just wasted about an hour of my time reading and responding. They must’ve been on here all day and all night too to read and type what they did. I think these directors here are highly expendable.
“I think” as in the opinion of a paralegal, must be credible
Director 2 no, your paycheck does NOT include commuting. That is non-paid time. Look it up.
it does, just like prior to the pandemic, you are supposed to use part of your paycheck to get yourself into the office
Are you back office support or a field advisor?
I do business analysis & product strategy work. Nothing client facing, just helping the firm make choices about what to offer, how to structure offerings, measuring success etc.
HONEST ANSWER! I do know a company that hires for remote work. A company thats in multiple states. They are TRUELY an AMAZING company to work for! Just depends on if you are interested in that specific field.
Haha I’m not sure how it’s a scam. I was simply just trying to give a simple recommendation bc I myself worked for a company that I truly believe is a great opportunity for simple remote job. Things are so outta control and backwards no a days. Let’s say little try to be nice post is a scam and let actual scams post fake job postings and never get flagged uggh unreal.
And guys do just as good as females you just have to have enthusiasm and be supportive! But I wish I was still there..I loved it.
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Corporate America has a collective short memory. They think people should just get over layoffs and poor treatment of employees. They don’t. They just look for ways to even the score. They become good actors. They bide their time. I’ve never had an expectation of remote work. But if I did and the policy changed, I would act like I liked it until I could find something better. I allow management to believe they had won.
No, you are the one who is believing that you have won. Management know that a certain percentage of the workforce will quit once they mandate RTO, they are already prepared for that, people leaving will not be a surprise, it’s expected. They will actually be surprised if people don’t leave. Dimon even said that on CNBC. And in some cases, they want you to leave without giving you severance, so when you quit, they won.
I too have done a few times, remote jobs, man camps. Worked great, of course I didn't go to eat, but the food was great. Always, more than enough
I don’t see the point in RTO if the team I work directly with is not there (they are at different locations/states). However, training is better in the office that way it’s easier to get answers to questions if you have them.