Is it ever the right time to leave a team that’s already drowning? I’ve got a great opportunity lined up, but I feel like a terrible person for leaving my colleagues to pick up the slack. I’m torn between doing what’s best for me and not wanting to be the reason my friends have to work even more overtime. Any advice?

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This impulse means you’re a thoughtful and conscientious person. I’ve been in this quandary too at one point. Someone once said to me, “Don’t pretend that your colleagues don’t have the same agency that you do. Do what’s right for you and your career.” That helped me think about this differently. And always remember, the company doesn’t care about us, we’re all replaceable, and nobody misses us as much as we anticipate. This isn’t a bad thing…it’s just a fact.

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Honestly, I asked myself this same question for 12 months. Only to be beaten to the punch by my role being made redundant. They won’t offer you the same loyalty that you are. Do what’s right for you, at the right time for you. Good luck.

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Taking a job is a business decision for you and your family. Treat it that way. So if the current position isn't right for you, do what you need to do to take care of yourself.

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It depends.

Do you have a family? Even a cat that you have to provide for?

Are you financially secure? Is this other position better in the ways that count. like schedule, benefits, commute and pay?

is your current job driving you crazy? Boss an intolerable schmuck?

There is no blanket answer but those sorts of considerations should be the questions on your mind and not the timing. Giving proper notice should take care of your friends (if not, the boss is an intolerable schmuck for being unable to replace you!)

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I would do what is best for you because at the end of the day, companies do not care about you at all.

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I had to do this months ago. Do what you need to. There is never a good time for the team you are leaving. In my case I offered moral support which is much easier when you aren’t in the fire. In hindsight it was 100% the right thing to do because even though the teams were drowning with work they still had a Rif. I probably would not have a job now had I stayed out of guilt of leaving.

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All you can do is what is best for you. Company does what's best for them. It's just business

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Agree

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I think career wise you have to focus on yourself, it's the companies job to save your friends workloads.

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They aren't your friends, they are co-workers and they would do it to you. If they are real friends then they will be happy for you.

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There is no loyalty in corporate world. So move ahead. I am sure your colleagues will follow along.

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