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It never fails to amaze me how people will accept bs explanations from those getting let go and never consider that someone who was let go might lie about the reason. Go talk to a partner. But don’t start your career by underperforming and explaining that you don’t like it and therefore want to be in a more challenging practice. Prove yourself every day. Building your network and strong performance are key to mobility across practices.
Had that experience at Pdubs also..then I left ✊
Generalizations for a 225,000 employee firm are dangerous, and I actually stick around because I’ve gained from what you’re seeking. And now my team is key to my own success so I invest in them. It’s really unfortunate that more people don’t invest in their teams but this is practice culture and individually dependent.
I’ve worked at Accenture, Deloitte and PwC and seen pretty much the same at each: some are good about team culture and development, and others don’t care at all. And people usually leave their boss rather than their job.
Best way to transfer within PwC is to socialize with the leads where you want to go and allow them to work with your current partners to make it happen. Terminations due to a desire to transfer are extraordinarily shortsighted as it creates a potential competitor and most partners I know try to help their folks within the firm tondo what they want, though I believe that some folks would retaliate out of spite - it’s just been the minority in my experience. Why force a good resource to the competition when you might retain them in a new role?
Just my two cents. YMMV and unfortunately it seems it has for you.
From my experience, partners on smaller projects seem to take more interest in the lower level folks. On larger engagements, they couldn't give a shit about you if you're below manager.
^truth
You need to realign yourself to better partners then. When you find the good ones, stick with them. They are a rare bunch - just like finding good leaders is hard - but they do exist.
Fired? Seems extreme.
What competency are you?
I left PwC because of the partners in my practice. It varies from one to the next from what I’ve heard from others. What’s your ideal role?
P1 thanks for the input. Unfortunately, there are no directors or partners I respect in my practice. None of them would care for my professional development, nor would they let me get staffed on another project, let alone switch to another practice
+1 this has been my experience at pwc as well. You’re a cog in the wheel and nobody gives a shit about you aside from your “bandwidth” and availability
I figured this was just a practice thing but it sounds like it's fairly universal within PwC. What about the other firms?
OP- try networking with partners outside your practice. Alternatively, if you want to stay at the firm, try looking into tours of duty. I've found the people I've met in the tours is more accommodating than the partners that are gunning for sales. Plus, it's better work/life balance.
personally had a hard time moving around at pwc even though i liked the partner. just wanted different experiences. liking EY so much better as i’m having the opposite experience here
P4, I think you hit the nail on the head regarding the frequency of this situation across different firms/practices. But if I'm not interested in the practice I'm in, then I'd be fired for lack of interest/commitment. The partners are operating under the assumption that I wouldn't continue in this line of work at a competing firm, so there's no reason to keep me. What I find fascinating though is that it seems much easier to switch practices by switching firms, so the firm at large can potentially lose top talent based on the culture they're driving. Pretty disappointing in my opinion
I would also correct @P4 to 225k employee network of firms
Also, when it comes to networking with partners outside the practice, hypothetically speaking, even if a partner wanted to bring me on a new project, I have not been on the bench in years, so I doubt leadership would allow me to roll off my current engagement