Is it really fair for people who WFH to earn less than those working in office? We're all doing the same work after all. It's not like people who are in the office are working harder or doing more than those of us working remotely.

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I find i work more efficiently at home and more hours at home vs the office

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KPMG 2, you continue to misunderstand what is being written.

EY2 merely observed that THEY PERSONALLY (not EVERYONE, not MOST PEOPLE IN SOME HR SURVEY bit theg themselves individually) work more efficiently/productively at home than in the office.

Google what the word efficiently or productively means.

You keep insisting that in your personal experience those who report to you do better quality work when you see them at the office than others who work for you but do so from home.

I bet you believe your high performers only are high performers because they are in the office. While u simultaneously believe your poor performers would perform better if they came to the office. Talk about confirmation bias.

Don't compare different people. Compare ONE person to themself. I.e., does the individual you are evaluating do better work when they are at the office or when they are at home or is there no difference in quality regardless of where that individual works?

Personally, in the EY Manhattan office, I cannot get half as much work done as the amount of work I can get done at home. Too much noise, too many people (probably people like you, having loud phone calls or impromptu meetings at your cube) distracting everyone else around you. I have been in public acccounting for over 25 years and the new office models that are built like a Google office simply don't work for 75% or more of accountants at Big4. We need QUIET to concentrate on numbers. We aren't collaborating on out of the box strategies. We are crunching the numbers and counting the beans and writing technical accounting/tax memos. Work from home is the ideal and the only ones who dispute this are the control freaks and those with tiny studio apartments that they share with roommates.

Now get back to micromanaging your teams. (I know your type)

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yes, it’s fair. wfh is a benefit.

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Well no driving - no gas cost for wfh think of that.

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I was willing to go in more when the firm contributed to the cost of going in. After they stopped I go in my minimum 2 days.

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I’m sure they would agree that they can’t clean the office from home.

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It’s a matter of higher costs borne by employees working at the circus, ehm, at the office compared to the others

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It’s not fair but it’s definitely being done.

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Corporate people work from home when the headquarters are far in another state. They get paid Corporate pay. They do have to travel and it's really a lot of technology stuff, but the company offers it to them too.

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They'd rather pay you more since you allow them to babysit (micromanage) you because you work in the office. There are managers that don't believe people can be productive WFH. I thrive in such an environment. I only wish I could work for someone that would respect my personality type enough to see that.

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It depends. If you are comparing WFH salary to someone with the same job in the same city but get pay more than you then the answer is yes cause cost of living should determine salary. However, if you WFH in a LCOL and expecting to get pay the same as someone in HCOL that have to go into the office then it is a no.

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Life itself inherently involves injustice.

No I bust my butt at home to keep the privileged WFH so my pay better be the same.

I would have to disagree. In-office staff pick up all the "one-off" tasks and "quick questions" that pop up throughout the day. Sometimes those "quick" tasks take up most of my day. If there are multiple employees holding the same job, the one that is on-site and can be reached by walking down the hall is the one that's going to be interrupted and asked to do those things. No one is sending a coworker of equal title/knowledge etc. an email and waiting around for a response when they can pop into my office and ask me and have it done. It's faster for them plus they know someone is working on it as opposed to sending an email and not knowing if it was read or what the timeframe for completion might be.

You're hired for the work you do, not where you do it. That's what companies should base compensation on.

Someone could wfh and be terribly distracted and not put out their work.

It's what you do with what you got.

The work can involve interacting with internal and external people in person.

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