Kick Ass PMs; What have you found more effective in your day-to-day? Scrum certification or PMP?

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Neither honestly, and it pains me to say that.

After coming from a software development background/pure-play digital production shops, trying to implement PM methodology as an actual practice in traditional agencies is a lost cause.

The term ‘scrum’ gets thrown away a lot around in my agency, but I don’t think anyone truly understands what it means. It’s more than 15-minute daily stand ups and Kanban boards, and while those are great things to learn and implement on any team, unless you truly have an organization that is setup to accommodate true agile team structures and business operations than you’re not gonna get very far.

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scrum. hands down.

scrum is the 95% solution in two weeks. PMP is the 100% solution in two months. the agency world moves too quickly for that.

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So I have PMI- PMP, PMI-ACP and ScrumMaster via Scrum Alliance. If you are in an Agile shop I would actually recommend the ACP because it is a broad cert. ScrumMaster training was helpful but the test was crazy easy and open book. So not sure how the cert is viewed.

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Scrotum certification is expensive.

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Scrum for day to day, hands down.

My PMP suffix is used for a lot of political rather than practical reasons. Can be useful in that sense, but not when you have to get shit done this instant.

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I agree DP1.
I don’t think either methodology is 100% practical in real world scenarios however every employer wants you to have one/the other/both.

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Scrum, I wish the cert classes weren’t $1000+ ☹️

I’ve been a PM at several agencies and not one required PMP or Scrum. I don’t think either would be terribly useful at an ad agency. Certainly not scrum, unless you’re doing website development

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