Recently graduated with an MA and was excited to work remote as a strategist or analyst at the big name agencies. Suddenly, no one seems to be hiring remote anymore, and I’m repeatedly being asked to relocate and come in person.

I know my work is doable remote. I’ve been doing it well for two years at various agency internships. Is it unrealistic to stick with the remote dream and keep searching, or do I cave and consider relocating?

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For full time roles for a recent grad - yes, companies will prefer you come in.

You get to learn watching your seniors, listening to their war stories, finding informal coaches and mentors, and building your professional networks. The result is you grow, and the company gets more value out of you.

While you can do some of this remote as well, it is just not the same. You learn and grow a lot faster by going in.

For experienced professionals, the reverse is typically true. They get a lot more done when they are left alone. While everyone benefits from collaboration, experienced professionals have a better read on when to collaborate vs. put in heads down work.

Even so, companies will soon want the experienced professionals to also come in, so they can coach and mentor the juniors.

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I’d open yourself up to relocating for the right opportunity, but not just any. Taking any old role solely because it’s remote, or holding out too long could hamper your career growth, while being open to being on-site for a great opp will pay off huge in the long run.

I would say if flexible work is important to you but a lot of places are suggesting in-person work now, you should look for a hybrid position that you really like. I know fully remote is your preference, but I think HT1 is right, if you’re a recent grad agencies may be more hesitant to let you start remote. I personally have not been encountering this problem, but I am mid-level and in-house, so it may just be your timing. Go hybrid for a year, then job hop to somewhere that is remote once you have a year under your belt.

If working remote is the dream keep searching! There’s lots of companies that are still fully remote (even if it’s not an agency).

Think about what you want over the next 5 years of your life. You’re young and have things you want to do. Do you want to travel a bunch and be able to work various places? Do you want to save time by not commuting and use that time doing a hobby? If so, don’t waiver. You may get promoted 6 months slower by being remote (or you may not if you’re a great performer or in an all remote company) but in the big scheme of things you’re still going to move forward in your career while working on building the life you want to build. Look out for your best interests whatever that may be and stay true to those.

Plenty of agencies still doing fully remote with option to come in. (GroupM, Omnicom, Zenith) but I will say it is much easier to train someone in person than remotely. I've been doing it for the past few years and a lot of the best learning experiences end up being trial by fire. In the office I could ask way more questions and get more straightforward answers. But honestly it's just about what works best for you and your life.

Where do you live that you'd have to relocate? If it's possible, look for an agency in your nearest metro city. As others have said, a new grad has limited negotiating power to ask to be remote when the rest of the agency is not. There's many threads in the bowl about which agencies are permanently remote which you should utilize.

The option to be remote is there, but you may have to wait for that opportunity rather than expecting an agency to let you be remote

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