Saw a job on LinkedIn applied for it and the CEO of the startup reached out to me saying he was game to move to the next stage of the process. Spoke to hiring manager and they even offered another position which matched my skills. Scheduled a full panel interview. Met with the team had a great chat, Founder even said "I guess you can start right away"..Hiring manager calls later says they'll update then boom that generic email hits my inbox. At this point you're just like arrrrrrgh😩

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Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Name and shame them! What’s this startup that we should avoid?

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Been there. It really sucks when you get to the final stage, they talk as you would start the next day, and then they disappear and you get THAT email, because at this point you don’t even know where you can improve, as everything seemed to go so well… However, their loss. You’ll get where you want to be.

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Similar thing happened to me. I applied internally and interview went well. HM talked to my 3 refs, current manager (HR policy) and was already discussing the things I would be working on. Refs gave me good feedback about their 1:1 with HM. Then I got ghosted. After sending follow up emails, HM eventually informed me they hired another candidate but I was their 2nd choice. I learned later on that the new hire left after only a short time and they hired someone else. Oh well…

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The red flag was being hired that quickly.

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Yes, worse job I had was due to quick hire.

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🙈🙊 Oh no! Please forgive my disjointed & incomplete post above. Agh! The horror of learning that I sleep-wrote a response and then accidentally hit “post” when our 5 am EST alarm jarred me. 🤦🏻‍♀️ While sleep writing is a relatively rare but highly essential skill in the field of law I come from, it is unlikely to be something you all do or have seen.
In a separate message below, I hope you’ll give me the leeway to follow up with you intelligent, interesting people.

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Scientist OP & other cool readers:
Is the core of my above message clear? Please tell me if you read the message, felt validated, and found it responsive to OP re: what we all find baffling, hurtful, and frustrating in the interview process.
Many here also have experienced the soaring empowerment of rising through a series of “we want you” interviews, only to …
find themselves feeling ghosted or …
in receipt of “That Email.”

From having walked farther down this career road and been both where you are and at later the companies’ conference tables or on their speed would , I wrote to assure you that given the success of your interviews, the reason that the written offer did not come through or you were ghosted has nothing to do with you. In fact, I have NEVER known a case where it has.
In the hope of leading you to the same conclusion, I drew out the mental steps you must take to arrive at the same place — the perspective that FREES YOU when you stop taking ownership of others’ actions or inactions.

PS1 had responded to you and shared a similar story. Significantly, PS1 mentioned the self-doubt that the ghosting triggered.

One example from my life:
From being selected by the compay’s recruiter, to being vetted by the corp VP in a couple interviews of 2 hour blocks, then being the choice of the directors during and after my phone interview, I was flown from Atlanta to Pittsburgh and driven to HQ for an overnight stay and a full day of on-site meet & greet formalities of the last “interview.” As an attorney who practices in the field of “life sciences,” I’m accustomed to being flown in to the closest city and getting to the company HQ where I solve one or numerous crises or problems. In 2012/13, this in house counsel position paid in the high $300Ks/yr. For that reason, I was going to be able justifying moving to outside Pittsburgh, where naturally I knew no one. Like you, I had the verbal offers before I flew in. The primary reason I was flown was ostensibly a meet & greet, but I spent 6 or more hours “putting out fires,” waiting in the company’s windowless museum, surrounded by artistic winding shelves of the company’s achievements, awards, and designs. Leaders from each department came in turn to meet me where I’d been parked at a table. Each brought me his or her urgent or pressing dilemmas. So, counting the time I spent being “interviewed,” this well-established company, had managed to get DAYS of my time and answers, ie, my work product.

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