Second year IP lit associate at a V10 firm and I just billed a 17 hour day. What are realistic exit options? It seems too soon to go in house in litigation and I'm not sure how much better the hours actually are. Is there anything in law with good opportunities to be a good lawyer AND also not die of overwork? Something in government? Policy? Not looking to leave yet but starting to look at options to position myself for a move in 2ish years. TIA

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A, as in singular, 17 hour day and you want to quit?

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Get some sleep 🗿

Government, in house. Both have better hours than firm practice. Hard to get either from IP lit though. You may want to consider tech transactions or something more government related if you want to maximize exit options.

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Start your own firm and then you determine your work and hours. If you choose to work a 17-hour day, it's more bearable because it means a lot of money in one day and you still have control.

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A1: don’t understand your first paragraph. Agree with the rest though.

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I’m getting out of the law because I don’t find it intellectually engaging in a way I find interesting or valuable. So, take my thoughts with a grain of salt. But you might consider contacting others in more boutique IP firms and just getting to know them. Explore the world of IP to see if it’s really where you want to be. If it is, try to figure it out if there’s a firm or a firm type you’d like to work at and figure out how to make that transition—develop relationships, refine certain skill sets, etc. If you find the world of IP isn’t for you, explore other areas of law in a similar way. Just talk to people you find interesting and be curious. Find out whether other people like where they’re at or not. And for those that do genuinely enjoy what they’re doing, dig into why they like it. It’s far easier to find someone to gripe about their firm than it is to find someone genuinely happy who will take the time to explain why/how they’re happy. So if you find a really happy attorney, ask them all the questions you can.

If law proves to be a dead end (which it has been for me), don’t be afraid to explore engineering, teaching, or whatever seems interesting. You have far more flexibility leaving the law than you’d realize. But it’s not always easy or linear. You might have to take a shit job for a little while with, “I want to move into _______ position/department within this company but I’m willing to do grunt work for six months to show you I can hack it” as your sales pitch. If you’re unsure, do lots of interviews. You can learn a lot about companies and industries during interviews.

At the end of the day, I think we attorneys need to start exploring and trying things more frequently. The law is so much about identifying and mitigating liabilities that we become overly risk averse and have a hard time with taking even calculated risks or, heaven forbid, just taking a shot on an unknown. Exploring other career areas is a great idea if you don’t know what you want. Taking a job to test the waters is totally okay. Put yourself out there in a situation you think might make sense and give it an honest try.

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