So I am starting to see this more and more. People don’t want to work. Recently had a legal assistant quit, claiming that she was having panic attacks about her work. She did scheduling and admin tasks. I discussed this with some colleagues and they have been having similar issues. Wtf is going on?!

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I offer this politely, but everyone I know who has people who “don’t want to work” also has a second issue. When you talk to their co-workers or employees, it’s clear these people conduct themselves in a way that pushes folks away. It could be worth examining how you interact with others professionally. As the saying goes, it’s often true that people don’t want to work— for their current boss! It is harsh to say, but considering this is probably the right next step given an employee did tell you that your work environment gave her panic attacks over small items. I have worked in places like that… they all have turnover issues. And in all of them, “no one wants to work”! But many of those same lazy folks become successful elsewhere, oddly.

I understand others agree with you, but consider (i) they might be similarly situated, or (ii) they might be thinking the same thing I am but trying to be polite. I am normally in camp (ii) when someone broaches this sort of thing. I am someone who agrees. It’s impolite to push back on this.

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Most people leave jobs because of poor management. I know one firm that has a partner that has been through at least 4 paralegals, two of whom quit on the spot after she verbally abused them. Yet she has not been corrected or anything .

People want to work somewhere they are treated respectfully and their contributions valued. If you can't do that, try another profession

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The legal industry is one of the most toxic. I don’t know you OP, or your friends but maybe it’s a YOU issue, start there. Next it could be a law firm issue or an industry issue. I believe people are less inclined to stay in abusive/toxic work environments and are choosing their health and sanity - as opposed to other generations that would simply take it. The answer could be legal assistants are looking for the right fit and your firm wasn’t it. That’s fine, no need to make your/friends antidotal experience more than just that. Good luck with the next one, whatever you were doing before maybe try something different.

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So true. I didn't realize it was so toxic until I was already in too deep. I've interviewed with 40 different legal teams in the last 1.5 years and almost all of them gave off red flags and appeared to be toxic work environments.

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I can tell by the rude, condescending replies and the fact that you discount everyone else's "anecdotal evidence" while treating your own as fact that this is absolutely a "you" issue. If several people have left you, introspection is probably warranted. My guess is firm culture is absolute shit and people arent putting up with that anymore. Good for them.

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Dealing with the same problem. I have gone through five young associates in the last four years. They want full-time pay but want to work part-time. Partners at other law firms I talk to say the exact same thing. They all want the big money but do not want to put the time and effort in to become proficient attorneys. Most don't even care about becoming partners, they just want immediate gratification.

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A4 DONT use the word raped like that smdh

I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that "People don't want to work" is the fact that there's something more underlying going on such as management issues. Did you ever take the time to hear your legal assistant out or ever wonder why these panic attacks were happening with her? I'm pretty sure you have a busy and demanding job, but also there has to be a sense of empathy on your part too to do an assistant check-in. That goes a long way with the person you are working with and helps to build trust and establishes a connection that will make your legal assistant WANT to work with you. Change your tactic on how you deal with your next assistant and I'm sure it will go a long way for you.

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I’m an Admin Assistant and I would welcome a challenging job! To include but not limited to mundane work where I don’t use my brain. Maybe that’s part of the problem. If I had challenging work, I would seriously work after my shift was over if need be. The problem with attorneys (I believe) is you don’t think we have a brain and you treat us as such. This in and of itself is exhausting and will cause anxiety. Challenge is the operative word!

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There are so many tiers to this it's difficult to touch on without more information. Background, experience, reasoning for wanting the job all play into it. I was a LA/Paralegal for over 16 years and as sad as it I find myself talking to Partners about how I have worked for throwers (yes rule books, binders, papers thrown at me), yellers and those that take zero accountability for the work they sign their name to. All that to say it has made me stronger and helps me to mentor new/younger individuals to stand their ground in a respectful manner. I myself walked out of a virtual 3 week trial once because the client was blatantly disrespectful to me and I told the attorney he apologized said he would talk to the client and handle them himself for the remainder of the trial and that was ok for me to not have to work with the client any longer. As a side note this was not an attorney I even regularly worked with I was filling in because the Associate on the case recommended me as support. I think it's also smart to understand training has a HUGE factor in this simply handing them a rule book or directing them to a website doesn't cut it anymore they want someone to walk them through it and help them. I created cheat sheets, power points and conducted many trainings on this. Also consider most people are not planning to be secretaries/admins for life it is a stepping stone for most these days. Perhaps they got into it thinking it would be easy and not realizing until they were in over their heads. Approachability is also key, if they aren't comfortable speaking to the attorneys they work for it makes it hard to communicate when they are struggling. This goes for trainers as well. I let everyone know that I understand fire drills happen but they should not be a regular thing and they need to have a back up. I let LA's know that they need to be communicating with their attorneys if they have something that just doesn't allow them to work late (school, family, volunteer work etc...) I also encourage LA's who feel rushed or last minute to check review calendars and if there is a big filing or production (MSJ, MTD, Removal etc...) coming up and they haven't heard anything to start checking in a week earlier to see what they can help with and it puts it on the atty radar. In order for this to happen though they have to be comfortable approaching the atty's. As much as I hate to say it I would reevaluate your approach and keep in mind everyone is human and makes mistakes learn from yours and theirs (maybe we need to have a safeguard for that calendaring - I find new Associates are great for this as it helps them learn too!) Develop the systems and just know not everyone who thinks they are cut out for the legal world is and they have to find out somehow. I have met many atty's who say I am so wise for not going to law school and others who don't flat out say it but they aren't utilizing their law degree as lawyers. as they intended.

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Thank you. Your comment reminded me that a former boss actually threw something at me off his desk ....15 minutes later I was fired by my main boss. To this day I don't know what I did!

Now I'm understanding your problem. Sadly.

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because you insist on hiring these young lazy people who want to be instagram models and ignore older staff who would commit congrats

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Normally attorneys want all documentation even whole case has to be prepared by LA and they just sign it even don't read the whole document, l am working as Attorney since 2 decades and feels the most of attorneys do not really want to educate and train but occasionally to release anger select assistants as punching bag being act as sweet knife

I am shaking my head too, because that is what I experience as an administrator. And the slightest change in routine, it is too much work or "I want a raise."

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