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Hello Sharks, Need a suggestion. Had a verbal communication on profile and salary post selection (12th August) still haven’t received the offer letter. Getting updates that they are waiting for global team approval which is stuck due market conditions i believe. My LwD is arriving should I take Whatever offer i have which is comparatively less or ask company to retain as MS are not certain with when they can roll the offer out. Microsoft
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One thing to consider: It’s not wrong or bad to stay because you love your team. That’s great. But your team will inevitably change. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next year, but at some point some or all of your team will leave, for new agencies, for other teams, whatever. That’s just the nature of humans and time. And when it happens, the team dynamics will change. Maybe they’ll be even better. Maybe they’ll be worse. But it won’t be the same. And then you might find yourself wondering what it was you were holding onto, you know? So then the question now becomes do you wait for something else to change the team dynamic you love or do you do it? And I think when viewed that way, the argument for moving, while not ironclad, becomes stronger.
You should totally bring it up. When people say don’t tell them - it’s really to say two things. One that if you use it as an ultimatum to get more (“I want to stay but”) be prepared to walk because you may not get it, and 2) because some management takes the offer of a new job as some indication that you are disloyal, which could put you at risk. I don’t know the situation here, but having been in a similar one years ago, I left. I got paid what I was worth. I wasn’t unhappy in the new place. Eventually I went back, but at a much higher salary. Sounds like you are seriously undervalued and with bad health insurance that compounds the issue. Take care of you!!! Talk to them. If offers are consistently that much higher there is a serious issue
Who told you you weren't supposed to bring it up? If you have a compelling offer, but are interested in seeing if you can make things work at Huge, you should have a conversation about that. I think it's possible to have that conversation without seeming like you're just shopping offers. You seem earnest in your desire to work things out.
If a place undervalues you, it's not really that great a place to work IMO. Tell them you weren't looking, but got an offer that compensates you based on your value. You want to stay, but need to be compensated fairly. Give them a chance. It will show how much they value you as an employee.
Get yours. No matter how great Huge is to work at, it doesn't mean anything if you are sacrificing your life and comfort to be there.
get a formal offer on paper before bringing it up. unless you plan to have a more general conversation. if they love you back, they'll counter a formal offer stronger.
Take the job, the hire your team over to work with you. Happens all the time.
Why couldn’t you discuss it? Your line/ personal manager should be open to having those conversations.
Any advice for someone trying to get out of account management? I’m not sure what I want to be doing exactly which makes it difficult. I do know I’d like a less stressful job and non-client facing. Does such a thing really exist?!
Basically, my comp is super low, and even my title is a bit dumb, but I truly love my team and hope to shape our practice in a positive way. These offers come in constantly at a much higher pay grade. I just legit do not know what to do. I don’t want to leave Huge unless they put me on dumb work that doesn’t leverage my strengths in favor of the agency and my sanity. I’m also sort of weighing my options given that I could jump $70k in comp if I opted for a couple weeks of interviews. I don’t know what to do. I’ve always heard you shouldn’t say anything until you’re ready to leave, but in my case my people know I’m not ready to go. I’m kind of (definitely) in a harder financial situation than I should be due to a loss of title, mentoring, and salary (not to mention bad health insurance) by coming here. Does anybody have advice for those of us at the crossroads?
Everyone is probably like DTMFA. But I really love my team. Blahhh.
Thank you all for the advice. I need to think things through and this really helps. I didn’t realize that it wasn’t career suicide to bring up other offers (although I will hold off until I can figure out how happy I think I’d be elsewhere). I need to meditate on this, hard.