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The answer is never Goodwin, unless you’re interested in the worse of the two options.
They over hire then do layoffs in a never ending cycle.
Cooley - probably one of the best firms for tech/vc
Zero doubt about it. Cooley refused to fire an associate when Elon Musk demanded it and Elon Musk fired them and they didn’t back down. Goodwin would have never done that. Goodwin would have fired the associate and everyone that worked with the associate probably.
All firms are bleeding partners right now because of the insane lateral market.
Didn’t know that! Props to Cooley
As a current Goodwin associate, I would have to agree Cooley (although the partners who just joined from Cooley in our tech group are apparently a clown show)
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Cooley. I see no reason for anyone to ever go to Goodwin.
As someone who works across from both firms very regularly: Cooley.
(1) Are they generally good at their job? Do they generally know what they're doing, get the details right, etc. (2) Are they generally reasonable to work with as opposing counsel? — I would answer yes to both of those questions for Cooley, and no to both of those questions for Goodwin. I am generally happy enough to see Cooley pop up opposite and Goodwin elicits an eye roll and an "ugh here we go I guess." This is all just my experience of course but I regularly work across from both firms (senior in ECVC) and have plenty of data points that create this general impression. So if I were looking to lateral I would give Cooley and a couple other firms a call and probably wouldn't send a resume to Goodwin. All this is separate from other criteria to consider that would be important, however (e.g., the associate experience, growth opportunities, client base, office/geography, stability/layoffs), so not making any claim beyond the report of my own experience as described above.
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I don’t always drink coolaid. But when I do, it’s cuz Goodwin ain’t it.
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okay I’m dead I didn’t know Cooley had so many Stans. Can someone who answered DM me to answer my questions lol
Yeah I’m not a Cooley stan, I just have enough friends who’ve had a horrible time at Goodwin to pick a firm I’ve generally heard semi positive things about from people
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Probably a toss up, but Cooley is a bit of a mess right now at the partner level. At least Goodwin is more stable there. It also depends on what city and what practice group.
How so? What's goin on with partnership?
You’re picking between two awful places. One of them just happens to be a little less so (Cooley)
What’s a good place then in your opinion
avoid both if you can
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As a Goodwin alumnus, I relatively enjoyed my time there, though was just overworked. Though while I was there the firm didn't have rounds of layoffs like they've had since I've left...so can't say what it's like now
Oh wow had no idea...I see...that's a shame and I'm sorry to hear that
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