Thinking about getting a full time remote marketing job so when my wife and I start a family I don’t have to pay for daycare. Is that a real possibility in this industry?

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I don’t think trying to WFH and parent a baby/toddler is a good idea as a parent of a 20 month old. Whenever he’s home sick, my partner and I basically have to split the day in half and one of us takes care of him while the other works. Getting longer stretches of work done while on “baby duty” is basically impossible unless you’re just plopping then in front of the TV.

I would consider the other benefits of WFH as a parent - I can get so many chores and cooking done during the day so I don’t have to deal with it when our kid is home and I can really enjoy that time with him. Plus, not having a work commute before/after daycare pickup is a dream. So I would definitely encourage WFH in general, just not as a daycare replacement personally.

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Agreed!

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Of course. Marketing is an excellent industry for remote work.

We’ve lived off a single salary for 13 years.
I’m been working 100% remote for 8 years. She’s been a stay at home mom for 7 years.

They key is to make “city” money while living somewhere with a low cost of living. With so many companies being fully remote, it’s easier than ever.

A lot of commentators mention how difficult it is to care for young children while working from home. Off course they are right. A single parent cannot effectively watch children and effectively do a fully time job. I hired a SEO manager who tried to do just that and she resigned after 2 months to be a full time mom.

That said, if your wife doesn’t want to work a day job and would prefer to run the house and raise children, like billions of mothers have done since the beginning, you will be setup for success.

I wake up early. Catch up on news and emails in bed. Grab some breakfast and walk to my office room. The wife gets the kids to school. Around noon she often makes me lunch. She watches the baby, cleans the house and goes shopping. If the baby is napping and she needs to run out, I cover if the baby wakes up early. In the afternoon she starts on dinner. I sign off the computer at 5pm and we have dinner.

It’s actually a fantastic setup. I can help with the kids if she’s overwhelmed or needs to get a project done. She takes care me and the kids so I can focus on work.

I’m sure this setup isn’t for everyone, but I like working and would hate to watch kids full time. She loves being a mom, and would hate to work full time. We specialize while supporting each other. The finances take care of themselves because we’re optimizing my salary earning potential while minimizing cost of living expenses.

Good luck!

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Yes, absolutely. We're doing it right now. Key things to consider:

1. One of you will need to be full-time caregiver at least until your kid enters public school.
2. Your SO will need to understand that being at home doesn't mean being available. You are still working. That needs to be respected.
3. You'll need a dedicated space during working hours.
4. There will be moments when you're needed. And moments to bond that you would miss if you were in the office. Those are okay. Take them. Enjoy them.

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Oh, please don't think I'm discounting the difficulty of having a family on a single salary.

It's a best case scenario that I'm lucky to have (though life has found a way to make me pay in other areas).

There's a lot that goes INTO answering OP's question that they haven't shared. One or two incomes, age and number of children, work culture, cost of living, etc. Ultimately the answer is yes it's possible, but the details are situational.

I think I was utterly failing to make that point. Sorry about that.

Even now, I'm still entertaining my toddler because she wanted daddy before the workday was over. These are the moments I love about WFH.

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I found it impossible to juggle kids and a job during the pandemic when there was no childcare. They’re constantly needy in the early years and there was massive burnout among parents. It’s well-documented. Wife and I both almost got fired during that stretch. Just couldn’t make it work.

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Currently have a 13 month old and could not imagine doing this. One thing to consider is how much quality time are you providing your child. Are you able to read stories, teach them things and provide good enrichment for them while you are working. If the answer is no then daycare might be the best option still.

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I’ve worked remote marketing jobs for 4 years, never going back to an office. Currently planning on starting a family as well. The only tip: try work remotely for 6-12months to get used to it first and have your routine, before adding a baby to the mix because the two things at the same time would be quite overwhelming.

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i second this. finding a routine while remote is an unspoken necessity

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I’m curious how many people saying that it’s “doable” to take care of your kid all day while WFH are in heterosexual relationships and identify as the father figure. Regardless of how even you think the work is, mother figures end up taking the brunt of the workload when it comes to raising a child.

Please note I’m not advocating that that’s how it should be but rather the reality of M/F parenthood dynamics.

I saw countless strong women with incredible work ethics hit absolute lows when trying to WFH and take care of their kids in various stages of the pandemic.

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Totally appreciate. ❤️❤️

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It much harder to work with kids than people realize. My kids are 1 and 2 and we kept both at home for the first year while we BOTH wfh (the older is in daycare now and the second we are starting soon) and it is the hardest thing we’ve ever done. Imagine a tiny human crying, needing food, needing a nap, needing anything while you’re on an important call? It’s impossible sometimes. I would plan at bare minimum part time childcare to start and go from there. It’s sucks that childcare is so expensive in the US

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I think it depends on flexibility of your work. Are you leading marketing strategy/lots of meetings or are you working on production work?

Maybe I could have done it before my kiddo was mobile, but she was 2 when covid hit and it took everything to get through the days. I started working at 6am, logged off between 8-9ish when she got up and had breakfast. Then had her in my office playing with toys while taking calls. Then another break for lunch, then a long nap for her so I could get a few solid hours in, then she would be back up 1-2hrs before I logged off. I did end up finding help 3 days a week which allowed me to stay more focused.

Now she is 4.5 and has been home some days, which is still difficult due to my calls focused on delivery of communications and projects. I would need in-home help full-time to keep her focused and to develop the skills she is learning at daycare. It’s not just the cost of daycare, but it’s also what they are learning while there.

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Working from home with my 8 month old in the pandemic with no childcare was *unbelievably* stressful. You will get so little work done with a baby at home. Please reconsider and seek out good childcare help, even if part time.

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All of my marketing colleagues who worked remote and have babies needed child care. You may not realize how hard it will actually be to have kiddos at home and be able to accomplish work.

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I think that’s a great option just know it can be hard to get work done with a kid at home

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One of my current coworkers works remote half the time because she has to watch her 5 year old, and she claims to actually get more work done. Maybe the difficulty would pass after a couple years?

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Sure is. I do it now and have always done it since our kids were born.

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Have never not worked remote. Tons of roles in marketing are remote now a days

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Yes

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I think it's very possible, but I also think how demanding/flexible your job is plays a role. Some of my colleagues have cut their days slightly short to do pick up for their older children and then make it up later in the day if needed. a more in-the-future thing to think about

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Been working remotely for 5+ years since I basically went off the road in the snow/ice trying to get to my old office one day in the winter. No job is worth dying over (unless you’re a doctor and going to save lives maybe 😂).

That being said I’m currently 6m pregnant and I’m very concerned about the realistic idea of getting work done while also having a newborn / toddlers to watch. We are seriously considering in-home help (which can be equal to if not more than day care) so if you’re in it for “money savings” just know it might not be realistic.

Also I have experienced (just my experience) unfortunately in this remote world there’s a big lack of promotions, upper management face-to-face time that lead to more high level projects. Might not be the same across all industries and roles but it’s a disappointment I’ve seen being remote, but so many pros I will never go back to an office.

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There are so many options in this, I’m debating starting with part-time in-home help so try to plan days with my team where I’m fully available for meetings, etc, there’s some nanny share opportunities (where you share a nanny with another family, so share costs - they still get full time hours but split across 2 families in most cases).

In my case trying to figure out logistics like “okay newborns require feedings, etc every 3 hrs” how does this work with your work schedule? can you realistically block off 45mins every 3 hrs (so twice during a work day at least) to accomplish this? And instead of getting any cleaning done during the day, while the babies sleep you’ll be working.. so nighttime is prime time for dishes, laundry, etc. here is where I’m hoping in-home help can also help juggle that the house just doesn’t get out of hand, or if you have to jump on a last minute important call, someone can grab a crying baby.

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Yep, went fully remote when my first daughter was born and haven’t looked back. It’s amazing to do it with kids. Many if not most Amazon marketing jobs are remote now, if you wanna look here.

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Depends on the Amazon job I guess.

I have been working remotely with my 1 year old since she was born and it’s really hard. We do it bcuz day care is so expensive but it does make my job harder

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Exactly....legally they can't fire her

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