TLDR: what are the best companies to work as in house counsel (in terms of WLB)? I’ve been in big law for about five years (also clerked for one yr). I have a pretty good situation, but I have little kids and would like to move for less stress and better WLB. Long story short, I’m nervous I'll accidentally take a big pay cut to go somewhere that’s equally stressful. But it’s hard to tease out where the best places to work are, so I’m trying to crowd source. Do you work in house and like it?

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I was also in big law and now in house where there are hundreds of in house legal professionals. In my case WLB is definitely better and less stressful. Pay cut is also significant.

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In a FMCG company. I think in general big tech may be less WLB friendly but pay better.

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I was in big law and took a 35% pay cut to move in-house, but the work-life balance would have been worth a 50% cut. Here are things I looked for:

How many people do you report to and how many internal clients do you have? The more layers between you and the CLO/GC, the more people there are to rain work down on you.

How many other people do the same job and how is it split? My coworkers all support different business units. I support all of the business units, but that allows me to prioritize my work instead of having a single business unit that determines if I keep getting work.

Does your boss have kids and does not like being in the office? Culture is top-down. My boss has a young child, and works from home as often as possible. This gives me a lot of flexibility to work from home when I need to and prioritize my own family.

The maturity of the company. If it is too small, you will be drowned. If you are the second person to fill your role, it is likely that the kinks have been worked out in how the role operates and it might be adequately staffed to give you a reprieve.

This is not a guarantee, but I have a great work-life balance and that’s what I have noticed at places where I haven’t felt like I was drowning with work.

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Truly, this is super helpful! I would still love names if you could give them. Where do you work? It sounds great. They won’t be mad if you tell us, right? Positive press!

By the way, I feel the exact same re the pay cut being worth it, as long as my new WLB is as you’ve described

Not all in house roles are created the same. In one of my prior in house roles I worked the same amount as big law.

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Totally! They’re on my anti-list, along with Amazon

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Toys r us or fao schwartz they let you spend as much time with the merchandise as you want

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FWIW, I make like $550k a year and work like 9-5. Some of the comments here are downright hilarious, TBH

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I also want to know where you work. That sounds great. I’d even be willing to start at 500k a year :)

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Very real concern. Consider negotiating with your existing firm and only jumping for a thoroughly vetted situation.

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Only go somewhere you have a friend on the inside, tbh.

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Following for ideas

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In a very similar circumstances, about 5 years in big law, one year clerking, looking to go inhouse for less stress and better WLB. Following along for insights.

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