Unpopular opinion: 2,000 hours is way too high of a benchmark to be eligible for a bonus. Unless like 300+ non-billable hours count towards it (maybe half of that be pro bono hours and the other half be diversity, recruiting, etc), 2000 is way too much.

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Yeah, we all know. That’s not unpopular.

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Well about half the comments so far are against what I said, so at the very least it isn't a super popular opinion haha

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I have billed as much as 2400 and as little as 1650. To me, 2000 feels busy and strained. 1900 is busy but not strained. 2100+ is the pace that makes me want to quit being a lawyer.

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The New York State bar came out with a report recommending that law firms cap billable hours to 1800

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Yeah and people freaked

2000 is not hard at all if the work is there.

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Also depends on what kind of work. Not all billable hours are created equal.

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I can just hear the partners saying “Your base compensation is more than sufficient to compensate you for your work. Bonuses are earned for extraordinary performance.” 🤮

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So did I get blocked, or did this comment get dirty deleted?? Haha

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Y’all are getting bonuses at 2000?

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Bill more.

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1900 is our requirement and frankly I chose my firm over 2 others because their billable min was 1950 … 1800/1850 would be sweet but here i am billing 2200

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Agreed

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