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Was offered a promotion to Senior strategist, but the wage increase is below expectation/agency average. How should I structure my argument to effectively ask that they pay me more for the position?

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I’ve had success with the argument: “I love it here, so I don’t want competitors to be able to even tempt me by offering me more money. If you pay me *industry standard, or at least within 15%, they won’t be able to offer me enough to move”. Industry standard is easier to prove in CA/NY where all roles must have their salaries published. But also anyone with an H1B visa (ie most foreign talent) has their salary published as part of their visa application... just search that database for additional data points

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I've never tried this, but I've always wanted to say "the range for this position in this market according to guides X, Y and Z is $$$$. What you're offering isn't reflective of third party reviewed pay scales " I know with enough Googling you can find credible sources for this info for just about any title. Anybody ever tried this? I feel like this would be a stronger tack than using comps within your own agency.

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Same thing happened to me. I took the title and left.

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I’ve successfully negotiated increases by 1. Threatening to quit and 2. Showing them salary data. I didn’t bother with H-1B since I am one and most of my other friends that are had lower salaries since we were all held hostage by our visas/the promise of a green card. Also I knew the pushback was going to be ‘well our agency is small’ so I used the Strategist salary survey data and showed that even for a small agency I was still $25K underpaid. I also had info from a few recruiters that confirmed I was underpaid.

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Check the 4As Salary & Compensation guide, it can be a helpful tool in times like this

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@svpgsd1 where is the salary info for NY published? In jobs ads or elsewhere?

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Two other snr strategists at our agency shared their salary and are/were earning 15K more than my offer for the same position; 1 of them even has less experience than me. But I’m not sure that the “they’re earning more than me” argument is the best convincing point for being paid more. Thoughts?

The % increase is below average or just the total comp is below average? What city are you in? And hoe does salary amounts become a part of casual conversations with coworkers? Seriously always wondered how people begin opening up about salary....

This is the only effective strategy. ☝🏼

You’ll usually be promoted to the lowest end of the range, can’t compare necessarily if the other people were hired with that title

Both employees shared with me their wages and what they had been told from others. One did so as he was leaving, to give me advice for “how to deal” with our employer. The other is a friend and similarly wanted to arm me with the knowledge. The aforementioned was actually promoted up to the position, and had less experience than I do at that time, so I’m not sure that the bottom of the range argument applies so strictly, or it is the average start wage. Interestingly enough, I am on a visa. Just looked up the wage ranges for the Foreign Labor Certificate and it seems they would need to raise the offer by just a few K to match it, if I’m understanding correctly. However, that’s still 10K less than the other employees I mentioned. I am in NYC, so would love to know which other databases are available? Glassdoor is the only other source I’ve looked at which confirms the salary my peers gave me.

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