What is easier to break into, data science or data engineering?

In my current role I have opportunities to upskill in either, but it seems like DS might be oversaturated, and hard to get into without a formal education in it. My current tech stack is python/sql/viz tools, and entry level floyd certs for GCP and AWS.

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I see a lot of great DE work go unappreciated by clients and sometimes leadership.

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Can’t do DS without quality DE. Aim to learn both. Try learning Databricks, then work your way into the underlying architecture and integrations.

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Data engineering is easiest to get into because most DS roles require MS or PhD, but in my opinion data engineering is the more challenging role

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I didn’t, started in SWE and transitioned to DE. Landed SWE job because of solid projects plus open source contribs. I would recommend a DE bootcamp, would save you a huge amount of headache and would provide a network of roles. Everyone is migrating to cloud rn so there’s tons of DE opportunities. There’s one called pipeline I believe

For DS, you could also start without a CS background if your math and stats is really good. Do some really interesting projects and apply to places looking for junior DS (rare)

I agree with DE1 and Consultant1&2.

DS is flashy and somewhat easy to fake (from sklearn import fancy_model, fancy_model.fit())

DE is hidden unless it’s not done correctly. So no faking it and don’t expect any praises…

And yeah, learn both would help you a lot in any case. I think we generally miss a “full stack data x” profile.

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