You bring a jr creative along to their first shoot for experience and they start directing the talent themselves, ignoring the director we hired. what do you do?

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You tell them how to conduct themselves on set. Not complicated. People don’t know how to do things they’ve never done before.

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This! A neutral tone and that should help get them back on track

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What do you mean “what do you do?” You tell them they’re there to observe Any questions or comments, express them to you and you alone.

Otherwise, they should sit in video village and keep their mouth shut.

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They can open their mouth to eat peanut butter pretzel bites, but yes to everything else.

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As a senior art director, the fact that you need to ask what to do is concerning. This is an issue easily resolved by having a simple private conversation with the jr. creative

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You teach them how to conduct themselves on set and protocol.

Yes, they're there to observe and learn, but teach them to have an opinion but how to do it -- talk to you, then you relay to the producer, who relays to the director.

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You blame yourself for not giving them some pointers on set etiquette ahead of time.

There’s a good chance that they feel like they need to justify their presence on the shoot and are trying their best to do that. It’s up to you to explain that as a jr, they are there primarily to observe.

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And send them
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Oh! You stop them and tell them what’s up. This creative is just trying to do a good job it seems, but make it clear they are there to learn and I’ll bet they totally get it and start sitting back and listening. I know I def stepped out of bounds a time or two as a junior, but I learned from being corrected in a constructive way.

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The ideal thing here, IMO, is to have them actually work together or have the junior shadow the director. They both need to be comfortable with each other's opinions.
The director needs to understand and try to work as a tutor too, but also have in mind that the jr can come with valuable insight when it comes to client preferences. (assuming it's a client they worked with in the past or have more insight into because it's an agency client they talk to more often than the hired director - again assuming it's an agency here.)
The junior needs to be guided to understand the lengths of the involvement they can have. And that is both your and the director's responsibility. Tutoring, mentoring, managing, requires communication, and that translates in unintimidating dialogue going both ways. Perspective can be very unique and can come especially from a fresh and probably unbiased mind. Cheers

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Hahaha! Everyone gets trained differently, I guess.

When I was on my second big shoot, my ECD wasn’t liking what the director was doing with the actors. So, because he knew I got his vision and we were running short on time. He told the producer that they were sending me back there to stand next to him.

I was terrified, super young, and didn’t even realize that was an option. lol Plus, this director was an old-school industry vet.

So, I went back and gave the direction for the scene. Stood there and asked for more takes until I got the thing I knew my CD was looking for. (Despite the director’s clear displeasure manifesting through snippy comments and deep sighs.)

Anyways, I’m texting my CD on the side. He agrees that we’ve got it. So, I go to sit down.

But, before I even round the corner to get back to video village. I get another text that said, “Stay there.” 😩

So, I slumped back to the monitor and stood next to the man for almost another hour. It was so uncomfortable.

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