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Wow. McKinsey, which has the biggest public sector presence of the MBB, really hasn't been doing too hot at all in the sector.
Its presence is tiny and it's gotten even smaller. Meanwhile it's bungling whatever opportunities it's getting.
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-mckinsey-is-making-100-million-and-counting-advising-on-the-governments-bumbling-coronavirus-response
Anyone here who left fed job and regretted it?
Anyone from Leidos? Anyone? ...... *crickets*
MITREs Glassdoor rating is like a ski slope.
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Why is manager your goal? Have you proven that you can do things outside of a delivery role, like sell and win work? Manager at Deloitte will come with way more responsibilities particularly as it relates to business/sales goals and people management…Deloitte also likes to offer you a level down
I have 3.5+ years account management experience. It's clear that managerial roles carry more responsibility. I don't want to be SC forever.
Feel free to DM me happy to help - I’m in the same boat as you, just with 6 YOE. Going directly to manager is very possible if tou have consulting experience. You’ll need to emphasis leadership aspects of your current role and double down if it’s directly client facing etc. Managers tend to lead projects or multiple work streams - usually 3-10 resources under you. Happy to chat more
3 resources would be extremely small for a manager unless it's a pure strategy project. I'd expect an SC to manage 3-10 resources :)
I have 10 years consulting experience, 5 years PM experience and was downleveled to SC. I was bummed for a bit but I'm taking the long view. I'd rather have a year at D kicking ass at this level and learning the ins and outs and then go up early. So far I'm right on track.
As others have said, Deloitte is notorious for down-leveling. I know some incredibly impressive people who came in below where they should have. It’s worth applying because you never know but don’t get your hopes up OP. They’ll very likely bring you in at the SC level or potentially even C.
I disagree- we don’t down level really. We level based on years of relevant experience, emphasis on relevant experience. I see tenured folks coming in with 10 YOE, but only two in consulting. There’s no incentive to down level people … manager is a very tough level and without breadth of consulting experience to lean on you’ll fail
You’ll likely have a challenge getting a promo by changing employers in consulting. Companies are hesitant to offer increased responsibility if they see your employer hasn’t already given it to you (particularly in this case because D is very familiar/similar with EY and their levels).
It’s actually not uncommon to join consultancies at a level below the candidate’s current level to give them time to acclimate and build a network.
Recommend coming in as a lateral and work towards a fast track promotion or earn M at EY before moving.
Agreed. Didn’t mean to make that sound like they’d be put on some fast track under an agreement with the company. Meant that they’d bust it to work towards getting a promo asap.
Big Daddy D loves to downlevel, so as an external hire who, especially one who isn't already at the M or M equivalent level, it's a hard sell to come in as a M.
That said, if you can demonstrably show that you have both sales and team leadership experience, you can make a case for it. No guarantee that you'll get it, but you can at least make a case for it.
7 years experience isn’t much in the scheme of things, as others have said your most likely an SC entry.
Don’t do it. Left after a year. Or be prepared to drink the Deloitte koolaid.
Apply!! We will hire you
You probs won't get Mgr. Just be a highly paid sc at deloitte and screw all the work mgrs at Deloitte have to do