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Boston Consulting Group McKinsey & Company - I have 8yoe(plus masters), should I be applying for consultant or PL/EM role?

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Expert is do-able, but jumping in as an EM is very rare and often a disaster. It’s incredibly difficult to be an effective McK EM without seeing and learning the role here. I’d come in as an ASC before coming in as an EM.

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Very few if any laterals are hired in at PL level

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I would not apply as PL/EM but would start as a consultant. Gives you a bit more time to learn the firm‘s language understand how the teams and practices work and build a network. Most experienced hires I know quickly progressed through the stages. But they cut EM and AP time short, not so much the associate time

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Also: the only experienced hire I know who started as an EM really struggled with the very fast ramp up and the expectation to manage a McK engagement after a four month ramp up like someone who has known the firm and it’s internal processes for years. They left consulting track after a year and the firm after two

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I had 8 YOE before joining BCG as Consultant.

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MBA? Or non MBA master? What are your 8 YOE in? Consulting? What firm?

Consultant (BCG) or Associate (McK)

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You could apply for a specific practice based on your experience

Not exactly the same question, but I’ve seen more people make the Director/Senior Manager (from B4) to AP jump - is that more doable because there’s a domain expertise component and maybe a sales component there? Normally I’d imagine it gets harder and harder to move the further up you go?

That sounds about right. The one I saw was elected vs never (which was like 2 vs 30-40). Mine was for for particular region. There is also a subset that come to McK (as a Director or SM elsewhere) and stay for 2 years. Even if things don’t work out (as it usually doesn’t) it does provide a better exit due to brand equity (so in a way this provides any downside protection)

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Curious about this, I know a couple of Lighthouse Managers who left for PL roles at Gamma. Can't speak to about their success at BCG, but I talked to one and they said it's not impossible to land PL role.

Interesting, data scientists?

Thanks a lot everyone! Great feedback - made the decision much easier

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