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Insane in what way? I suspect you’re going to need to be more descriptive for people to provide insight to what you’re really wanting to know. Every agency and its title structure are different. For instance, one might allow for intern-AAE-AE-SAE-AS-SAS-VP-SVP-EVP-Senior Counselor-GM - often implemented in larger agencies where you have to delineate from a number of senior people who may have been there for years and years vs a hot minute. Others might dictate for intern-AAE-AE-SAE-AS-VP-Exec, and cut out the nuancing of senior titles - I’ve seen this mostly in smaller agencies. Speaking to what I assume is your unspoken, broader question, I’ve found when there to many seniors, and not enough juniors, (an upside-down pyramid, if you will) results in an unhealthy work imbalance - not enough people to do the work. The same is true if vice versa - at least you’ll likely get more experience but also likely wouldn’t get enough mentoring and managing.
Ah, equivalency. Yes, sometimes it’s fascinating to see how the UK/UK/EU/LatAm/APAC titles shake out and compare to one another. In some ways, it’s just a made up system developed and adjusted to keep the agency competitive in their own markets in they’re seeing certain titles gain more respect, etc. also have to keep in mind that sometimes titles and performance don’t necessarily go hand in hand. Eg if you’re looking at - chosen at random - Brussels vs Boston, or even two cities in the same country. One city might have an incredibly strong and over- performing and -achieving roster of staff, and might be really tough on them for promotions (promoting slower and less freely), but the second city might promote much more freely to retain talent. I can’t speak to the case of what you’re experiencing, but given that you are an AE - new and seeking experience - potentially interacting with US SVPs - who more often than not have at least 12-15+ years of experience - soak up the opportunity and use it to learn as much as you can!
🇬🇧 = AE > AM > SAM > AD > SAD > GAD > CSD > MD > CEO
🇺🇸 = AAE > AE > SAE > AS > AD > VP,AD > SVP,AD > EVP,AD > CEO
the poor Account Coordinators got left off everyone's lists.
🇺🇸 = AC, AAE, AE (sometimes SAE next), AS, Management Sup., AD, GAD, etc.
I think what they meant was -->. Vs >.
Completely agree with your second point ;) yes it’s just in the UK it goes AE AM AD Group AD, client partner, MD etc so to hear VP in so early just sounds bizarre from a London agency perspective
In finance everyone is a Vice President!
US Media: Trainee, Planner/Negotiator, Sr. Planner/Negotiator, Supervisor, Associate Director, Director, VP, SVP, EVP, President, CEO/CIO.
Haha, in the healthcare world, this symbol > means "greater than." So in healthcare, AS1 just said that AE is greater than AM! Which I think is the opposite of the idea you wanted to convey. No wonder people find these symbols < and > so confusing. Just an observation, no disrespect intended. *chuckles*