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Currently a C (level 2, "experienced hire", usually 2+ YOE) but with no experience prior to Deloitte. 1.5 YOE at D and up for promotion to SC in June. I'm a data scientist. What's the realistic GS...

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I should be aiming for, without knowing how impactful my projects are? I've heard at my level that I should be shooting for GS-12+ or GS-13. And at SC, maybe 14 or 15. But I'm concerned since I have so few years of experience. I have an MS. But moving up fast has meant that by the time I hit SC, I'll have just 2 YOE excluding internships.

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You’re in your mid 20s think you should be looking for Fed jobs that career GS folks fight for at the end of their career? Ok

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That’s...pretty normal OP and not really all that early of a promo and level given that you hVe a masters. You will have a tough time making a case for anything beyond a GS12 IMO just given your overall lack of work experience and federal requirements are pretty strict. Why are you leaving Deloitte if you’re on some “fast track” to promo?

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Yeah, a PhD professor who’s been teaching in academia will join the CIA as a GS-11. It’s not so different from the opposite move...I joined MMB with an MA and 15 years experience but forced to start over as an Associate.

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As someone who was a HM during my time as a fed, likely a 12. Normally I encourage consultants looking to flip their badges to aim no lower than a 13, but 2-3 YOE is pretty sparse even with a Masters. I think a 13 is most likely out of the question and 14+ are certainly out of the question.

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Yup. If you're making, say, $90k after your promo, that's in the GS-12 band in the DC area (which is where I presume you are), but is below the GS-13 band. Pay is often used as the level setter when a candidate has sufficient non-fed experience. When I was a fed HM, there wasn't a chance in hell I'd have hired someone as a 13+ with 2-3 YOE, no matter what their background was. If you've got a sufficient amount of relevant experience, on the other hand, non-fed pay is often used to determine where you fall in the hierarchy. If you've got, say, 10 relevant YOE and are making $125k, I could certainly see slotting you in as either a 13 or 14, depending on the specific role. Frankly, with only ~2 YOE, I'd probably peg you at GS-11.

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I used to work in govt before transitioning to consulting, and in govt I was on a GS 7/9/11/12 ladder. I got hired into a developmental program right out of undergrad, which put me at GS-7. In this program, you get a guaranteed promotion every year, so it would had taken me 3 years to get to GS-12. People with advanced degrees in my program started at GS-9 with it taking 2 years to get to GS-12. Based on what you mentioned, you will probably get put at GS-11 (maybe 12) but anything beyond that might be hard. All the GS 13+’s at my agency had typically been in government for at least 5-10 years. The government is strict on “time-in-grade”.

It depends on the agency. At certain IC agencies you would be a GS-9 with a Masters and 2 YOE.

Many agencies use DCIPS though which has more salary flexibility in pay bands. OP would be a 3 https://dcips.defense.gov/Portals/50/Documents/Adjusted%202019%20DCIPS%20Pay%20Rates%20&%20Ranges%20(Final%20Signed).pdf

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