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I was offered 90k out of my JD program at RSM with a very minimal signing bonus out of DC/NY/Boston. After my LLM I had an offer from a Big 4 out of SF/LA for $120k base and 15k signing.
Neither sounded very appealing.
We pay 1st year associates more than that at our midsize law firm's secondary city offices. Even more in NYC. Can I ask, sincerely, what is the appeal of going to Big 4 for so little comp, vs. going to a midsize law firm with a strong tax practice? Is it a longer-term play? Please fill me in!
P1, I’ve worked at Big 4 and a midsize law firm, and recently went back to Big 4 because I was allowed to be fully remote. That option is available to anyone who wants it at my Big 4. In my case I needed to be fully remote out of necessity due to family location. Also the clients are way more interesting than at the law firm. Big 4 clients are primarily Fortune 500 companies with a global presence and basically any tax issue you could imagine. So for me it’s been those two things - Big 4 is more accommodating of how I want/need to work, and the clients are more interesting.
First year Tax JD/LLM M&A for NYC (2022) was 132k starting, with a 15k sign on. Int’l tax was 130k, same sign on. Miami and Chicago M&A was slightly less at around 125k I believe.
My guess is in the $75-90k zone for a JD. I knew Tax LLMs getting offered as low as $80k in some major/secondary markets and up to $130k in DC or NYC in Big 4.
So after 2019 tax LLM program big 4 was offering around 130k in the major markets. I can’t speak to now. Hours are the same or worse for biglaw. If you’re an attorney stay on the law firm side of the house at least for a bit.
Accounting firms pay crap. Period. You want decent pay, go qith a law firm. Accounting firms only get competitive at partner level.
$85K
Big4 in NY is probably $100k.
Depends on group too. I had llm classmates getting offers to do international tax at 110–120 in nyc in 2017. Easily can be that now if you’re in a hcol area and doing a high demand area (international, m&a, etc.)
I will be doing international tax or M&A (internship has me doing both) so this is helpful!
I know first year JD associates in M&A tax making $95k in MCOL. I’d add $10-20k for HCOL. Don’t even fool with BDO/RSM/etc.
I started in SALT in DC at 88k with a 15k sign on back in 2017. By 2018 starting had gone up to 95k
Pwc, im a JD/LLM
JD would be around 95k at Big4 in the M&A group, if you can land it. That group typically hires LLM grads
So Dallas is probably the same too? And is it same across all of the Big 4? Thanks so much for your help - I appreciate it.
Graduated from LLM in 2016. Back then, LLMs starting in big4 m&a or international in NYC were starting at $120ish. So I would think that, at least in NYC, starting salaries have to be $140-150 now?
P2, OP stated elsewhere in the thread that bad grades are a factor here so I think it’s safe to assume they don’t have the choice. And they actually didn’t ask, “which is better salary-wise, Big 4 or Big Law?” So yes you have a point, but no one asked for it.