For negotiating salary w new job, has anyone ever let them (or gotten them) to make opening offer so you're not technically negotiating against yourself? If so, how? I'm conflicted on how to go.

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Just do your research, ask for the high end of what you found, and then if they give it to you, be happy. If they don't, negotiate to a number you are happy with. Someone will always be making more or less than you. Do your best and stop where you're personally content. Don't worry about what could have been or what others are making.

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Play politics! Don't say "I want X amount" and don't leave it open ended by saying "the range I saw was X to X." Use "I'm worth X amount." That changes the nature of the conversation for two reasons: (1) they will never come back with, "no you're not" and (2) you're not just valuing your ability to complete work, but your contributions as a whole

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This is a great question -- I just got a new job, and in the negotiation I couldn't weasel out of giving a number before them. I think recruiters these days realize how bad giving the first number can be for them.

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Always give a range. Then they will offer you something at the low or mid end and you counter for the high number. The worst they can say is no. Most often they give you something in between what they offered and what you countered with.

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You can always turn the tables. If they want to know your salary range you can reverse the question by asking what they are offering. It is advised to do your research and understand the playing field because you will then be in position to counter.

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Yup, i always ask the range they've budgeted for the position the second they ask me that question. And then i say that the top end sounds like it could work.

If they really push it, i've been told to say "it's confidential," but i have no idea if i'd have the guts for that.

You might also see if it's legal to ask in your state. I just moved from Massachusetts (where it's now illegal) to California, where i think it was being considered? It's theoretically to protect women from ongoing wage disparities if you were underpaid before - but fundamentally it's a shit question for all genders.

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Pick a range that you think sounds right, then bump it up 5k. In my experience I always say a range that I think it maybe a little to high and I always get it without negotiation and then realize I should've said higher.

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