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Have heard from numerous people on the inside that some agencies are only hiring women at the moment. Has anybody experienced this lately? Happening a lot in Chicago.

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^ This is the correct response considering agencies have seemingly been hiring all men for decades.

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For the record, the last three new hires we’ve had are men. The best person gets the job, period. However, from reading through this thread, it’s really disheartening to see so much bitterness in an already very competitive market. Especially when as a woman— I have worked really hard to get where I’m at, after years of being held behind by men who didn’t think a woman was good enough. And seeing many male peers breeze past my female counterparts on boys club camaraderie and brews, being handpicked onto juicy briefs— while we worked twice as many late nights and weekends to prove our worth, and barely got a swing at a good brief (if even the scraps of one). I don’t think my male peers were consciously doing any of this out of malice, either. Maybe they did deserve it at the time. But the fact is they, and only they had the opportunity to show that they deserved it. Yet today, it’s clear many don’t think these women “deserve” the jobs they are getting. Maybe it’s even some of these same guys who had a leg up before. Luckily that’s not all men. Some, including my own bosses, are now empowering women and believing in us more than ever before. I’m sorry you feel like you are missing out, but you have to understand that this a single moment in time, against an ocean of biased energy that has been working against us for decades. Yes, maybe people are being more open minded about female hires now. But that is NOT discrimination.

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You should always be advocating for yourself to get the most you can possibly get. I mean I’m not going to sit and be told I contributed to a banner year and get 8%, a great raise, without being a little aggressive and asking if 14% is possible, or if there’s some kind of bonus if I can close out a PO. There will never be a universal level playing field. There are agencies where it is preferred to be a woman, and those where it is not. There are teams within an agency where some are favorites and others are not. It’s just life. It’s reality. Can’t dig up old injustices, perceived or real, to defend preferential treatment.

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I'm a woman in NYC who hasn't been able to get a full-time job for two years. So, no.

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Are you willing to work in other markets? If so that's surprising to hear.

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I guess that they only been hiring men for 50 years, so maybe it's time?

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If they’ve only been hiring men, how do all the talented women here have jobs?

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Maybe the women are just... better?

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Acknowledging that I misread your confusing comment is not me making excuses. You dope. And if talking about biases, your biases don’t have anything to do with this conversation either. So move along 👋

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F in Chi. Been looking 5 months. My landlord would love it if you were right though.

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Writer, but thanks :)

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Yes. Male here. I sat down in an interview and before I even opened my laptop, the CD said while sheepishly shrugging his shoulders, “Look, I’ll be honest, we’re looking for a woman. I’ll still look at your stuff though.” I was stunned. Yes, this really happened. He said they had mostly male ACDs and needed a female. I told him I understood. What can anybody do in that instance? The agency posts regularly about diversity and is going full-force into diversifying the staff. I didn’t feel like pointing out that I was Hispanic, seemed like the wrong moment to mention it.

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I don’t want to be Adweek–famous as the first man to sue a large New York agency because they said they only wanted a woman. Screw that.

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The past 4 companies I’ve worked for have been about 80% female in the marketing department so...

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False. Just hired two white guys at my shop. We so prog.

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Has nobody on this thread watched Mad Men? Women have been held back in advertising for decades. Feel that competition now? Good, you should. Welcome to the beginnings of a level playing field.

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So let me get this argument. The answer to stop sexism is to practice sexism on another gender? 🤣 how ‘bout stopping sexism all together and hire based on talent? Is that not worth anything anymore?

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I had couple of interviews last month at offices of big agencies in nyc. All meeting rooms were filled with white women. I felt i was being prejudiced but i do feel more white women are replacing all others in agencies.

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Oh I know I’ve got a long way to go and grow in my career, I’m on the starting ramp. But pharma was a strong preference with a science background. Gossip runs in line with being human with the client, not a robotic service worker.

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Recruiter said I was a solid fit for role, however, “hang tight I think they only want females for this role.” At the end of the day, I gave it little thought. If I fit for that role, then I knew I would fit at 20 other shops because they all use the exact same job description more or less. Bottom line, move on

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Honestly, I haven’t been told this out right the other way (female here), but I’ve been verbally offered multiple jobs at agencies known for heavy male leadership and boys club mentalities, then found out men got those positions instead. I’ve also had my body commented on by male colleagues as a freelancer, so, you know, perspective 🤷🏻‍♀️

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I’ve been interviewing in Chicago and have not gotten a position *yet*... but who knows. I just hope they are being paid fairly. And it would be nice if they were not all young, and if they were hired for leadership positions.

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@acd2 we might have already chatted and I might have passed your book on but msg me your site anyway.

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It’s not sexism. It’s leveling the playing field after decades upon decades of fewer opportunities and open doors for women. As I’ve heard said, equal rights aren’t pie just because someone else gets their piece doesn’t mean you get less.

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It’s not leveling the playing field if all they are looking for is women. Leveling the playing field is making sure we don’t hire based on GENDER

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We are hiring many creatives and this has not come up at all.

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Everyone is a winner. Everyone gets a sticker. Never get out of the boat...

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It bolsters their diversity numbers. My old MD would hire a ton of entry-level women to keep the numbers attractive and then make new leadership positions or elevate others; “office manager, administrative lead, talent development (which was a copywriter’s side task) "to the leadership board, they just would never get invited to actual meetings.

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Oh @em1, I know you will never see anything you’re saying as wrong, but you are so wrong here. You can’t ask about family at an interview unless the other person brings it up. Women get discriminated against for having young children or for being in a position where they may want to start having children. It’s not friendly banter, it’s a minefield. Not wanting to answer illegal interview questions doesn’t make you a stick in the mud, it means you’re not dumb enough to be tricked into sharing personal information that can add to bias against a person. It’s not a “PC culture of nonsense”. It’s following the law. It’s respecting boundaries. You can have a get to know you lunch and talk about oodles of things that will let you gauge a culture fit without crossing a legal line or being overly PC. I really hope someone who’s been interviewed by you finds these posts and lawyers up. You’ve admitted to illegal activity and are defending it.

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which ones bc am still looking???

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Same.

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Not true. There’s just a shortage of roles in general.

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