Hey! I know you have heard it, seen it, or felt it. This industry is exhausting for us. I moved from a small agency to one of the largest ad agencies expecting to see more diversity. I wanted to work on accounts to help target us. Nope, I was the only Black person our team. I was recently laid off, after a few days, returning from a leave of absence due to health reasons. I didn’t expect it. Now, I sit here & wonder what roles do most Black people hold in the industry? Thoughts, experiences?

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I hate to hear that and hope you're taking time and space to decompress from that experience. I personally believe a lot of people who look like us find better positions client side. It cuts out from having to deal with the (often) fabricated sense of urgency a lot of agencies have while still offering a space to be creative and add value.

Agency side, I see a lot of us on the creative and account side mostly and even then, we're few and far in between. I don't know if there's a solution besides changing the model on how agencies operate but having personally made the jump to client side, it'd take a LOT to entice me back over and even still I don't trust agencies to foster the types of spaces on which we can thrive without the burnout aspect. Hence, why people move.

That's my opinion though, interested to see what others may have to say.

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AD1, my 1st foray into client side was awful NGL. It was with a sporting goods company who finally got rid of a certain celebrity partnership and that place was held together with tape and a prayer. So definitely do your research and source internal opinions before you apply.

And to be quite honest a recruiter reached out to me for it, I interviewed, and landed it. No magic formula was used.

For my current role, I went through creative circle. I used to think they were a bit sketchy but they called and worked with me to get me the roles I wanted and I interviewed and got it.

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A Black co-worker showed me a dozen of email chains from her new manager… smh her manager takes ALL of her emails & re-write them before sending to the client. It’s not about incorrect spelling or grammar… I reviewed it…she replaces like “Hi with Hello”, changes font size to her liking, she wants her to use emojis throughout… and tells her when to send the emails and how to respond. And corrects how she speaks in front of the client! It is so belittling!

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Wtf!! 😭😭😭 manager sounds 🥴

Yeah I went client side bc agencies underpaid me.

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I see a lot in strategy, that’s about it. I’ve been the only creative everywhere I’ve been.

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