How do you deal with an awful manager (in industry)?

I have been dealing with a manager that is extremely difficult to work with and has no respect for me or other direct reports.

His other direct report reached out to me and we both discussed how he is extremely unhelpful and dismissive. For example, the other report and I are both analysts but we are leading customer calls and running entire projects ourselves.

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When I've experienced terrible bosses, I've left. Clean up your resume and start applying for other jobs. It's really not worth the stress

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If I have one regret, it’s not leaving jobs sooner…The pandemic taught me that life is way too short. The job market is strong right now, so I agree with the commenter above me: Leave while you can. People leave managers, not jobs. Management will get it eventually, but your responsibility is to your own health and happiness. Might give your peer a heads up in confidence so you can both leave together.

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I would escalate this matter. Inevitably something will go very wrong on your projects and you need to protect yourself now. You have another analyst to have your back and you should have a written trail. Negative backlash should be limited.

I have had similar experiences as you. When things went south my managers pinned the projects short comings on me. When I tried to explain to my director it was my manager it was too late. You don’t want to be put in a defensive position as an analyst

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Thanks for the advice on this and sorry that you also went through the same thing. My only concern about escalating this further is that we have both brought these issues up to our skip lead, but he hasn't done anything about it. We have each mentioned our concerns separately to our skip in conversations but he seems to not want to get involved.

This concerns me because if we come to our skip formally about these issues and continue to escalate it's going to eventually get back to him and the both of us are going to be in a world of pain if he decides to retaliate

He just sits on these customer calls (that he should be leading) camera off and mute and when we debrief it's clear that he's dozed off the entire time. Each of us have also pushed back because we are way over capacity managing several projects at once. Additionally, he will ask us do to analysis in certain ways that do not make sense and when we suggest an alternative method he shuts us down, only to berate us for following his instructions when the output is messed up.

To add to this, our manager randomly pings us with urgent pre-sales requests (which are his responsibility) and expects 1-2 day turnarounds, which completely derail our own projects. We've brought this up to him but he's dismissed both of our concerns. He's a very abrasive person and colleagues from sister teams have mentioned to us how much they dislike working with him.

His other direct report and I were considering escalating our concerns to our skip lead because our manager has dismissed our feedback/concerns. My only worry is that our skip lead isn't going to do anything about it (other colleagues have mentioned he doesn't really do much). Additionally, our manager is likely to find out, which will create tension.

Just not really sure how to approach this as many people in our org know how awful he is, but management has turned blind eye (other direct report has brought it up multiple times to our skip lead)

Leave this job. Lots of jobs available n

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Best thing you can do is turn them into an advocate for you and promote out of the situation

How would you recommend going about this? If I get promoted on this team, I'd still report to him. I feel like my only option is to switch teams at this point

I had something similar. Manager was a slacker but I figured eventually it would catch up to him as the client escalated complaints, and I would get to avoid tension and being a snitch, and I was right eventually. But his seniors were disappointed that I never said anything. I figured as the analyst its not my responsibility to monitor senior managers.
now were closely monitored so even I cant afford a small mistake.

Its unfortunate that most companies dont have a good channel for juniors to get help and help the company/client, but moral of the story its probably best to discreetly talk to someone after having confronted directly. That way your hands are clean if shit hits the fan. But ultimately most of the blame will go on him no in any case, especially since he’s more senior.

Oh another point is when the client complained they knew it was him since he had a history. Unless your manager is new to the company theres a good chance others are aware too, youre not alone

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