How do you know when you have outgrown your boss?

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When they never turn up cause they’re adding no value. Or never speak in meetings cause you got it covered. When their answers and instincts seem out of touch for the task at hand. It happens eventually. Time to find your next opportunity (though I’d sit tight given the current climate).

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When u rip the seams of the skin suit u made from him? I don’t know. I got nothing

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When they speak in a client meeting, the client says nothing, then looks directly at you with their following question.

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I do a lot of the speaking and question asking and responding but the above has not happens yet.

I think for me and my old boss it was when I started to realise that I wasn’t learning anything new from that person, and alongside that they started running things by me about how to approach certain projects or how they should respond to individuals on things. This became a common occurrence and often was done in a low key way. Initially it was fine — I thought they just respected my opinion or sought other views now and again. After a time I started to feel complacent, and as if I was stalling in my career. That feeling grew into every aspect of the job too — things across the board began to feel like an exercise in scale management rather than something to grow from.

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Sounds like you already know.

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Maybe. Maybe not. I have high expectations of my boss — like growing the account and helping establish clarity in structure when there isn’t any. But those things are not happening and we keep coming back to the same things that don’t get resolved. There’s no hunger but there’s also not want to tackle the tough conversations?

It’s a great question! I think there can still be mentorship and teaching even if your boss isn’t needed in the day to day, or even the big things. That to me demonstrates you’ve got it covered, but who are you turning to for counsel and the occasional gut check? Who is inspiring you? Challenging you? Or helping you stretch outside your comfort zone and helping you see and stretch to that next milestone? If it’s not your boss, then there’s your answer.

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Thissss! So painfully accurate!

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When you feel motivated enough to ask this question

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When my boss started asking me for advice as often as I asked him. He had already given me free rein over my accounts. It’s not a bad thing if your boss isn’t trying to hold you back. But it probably is time to move on (someday when people are hiring again).

Think it's worthwhile to self reflect. Could be that you are good at a few things but uncoachable on others. The boss could be leaving you alone, waiting for you to leave. You should start a dialog to see which is it.

When you’ve stopped learning from them

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