How to vacations work under the billable model? I’m a first-year at a firm and want to travel internationally for a week, but do vacations get counted in the billable model, or am I expected to make up those hours at some point?

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You definitely need to make them up. The billable hour minimum/target is a number that already factors in any vacations taken.

It helps to bill a little during vacation so you don’t fall so far behind.

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Ordinarily, you, as an associate, would want to take time off when you are ahead in the game or at least not too far behind with reasonable time left to catch up. The challenge for first year is knowing how to manage that. Also, first years may not have enough work off the bat unless the firm is so well managed that they take care of that during the first few years to help you learn the robes and build credibility. I would not rush to taking vacation when you are so new. I didn’t take much vacation in my first two years (except the routine holiday periods and few days here and there). Again, depends on the firm. Some partners encourage their associates to take time off. Others don’t even know you are human and expect you to keep billing! Talking to other junior associates on how things work in the firm is always helpful.

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You make them up

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Typically you’d factor in vacation into the amount of billables you need for the year. Most firms don’t give credit for PTO so you’d need to “make up” the time you didn’t bill while away.

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lol how can you have gotten into and out of law school and not know the answer to this?

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It’s hilarious, A1. And hard to believe. But like I said, clearly I give people too much credit.

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You make them up. Pls fix thx

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You make them up, sort of.

Just estimate in the beginning of the year how much leave you expect to take and calculate your monthly/weekly/daily hours targets accordingly.

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Some firms do give billable hour credit for vacations, but that is the exception not the norm!

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I’ve heard Orrick and Wilson Sonsini do this. They might be the only ones!

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