I have been applying +300 applications for the past month- I have tailored my resume, Cover letter, and CV. But still nothing ... I graduated from a community college getting PhD in Biochemistry - but it appears all the company are going off for big names colleges- Harvard, mit, Yale etc... what should I do to get a good Senior scientists role?

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I didn’t know community colleges offered PhD. This is likely why you’re being overlooked.

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Yeah.
I have never heard that a community college could offer e PhD degree either. In principle they should not be able to issue anything higher than an Associate degree. That’s very odd in my book. How is that even possible?

300 applications. 1 month. 0 responses. Well first off it often takes weeks to months for companies to get back to candidates. So for many of the apps it’s too soon to tell.

But after some more time if you don’t get any responses then you are aiming too high. If you have a PhD and no work experience then they companies are going to decide if they want to invest in housebreaking you in for the real world. Get a job doing anything to prove you know the basics while you’re looking for a job in your field.

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No experience = start like everyone else and move up the latter. Experience will open doors regardless of where you study. Have to do your homework, Will not get Senior position just because you are just out school with a PHD. Unless of course you know somebody and you get the job via nepotism.

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300+ applications? There is your issue. There is no way you are tailoring your résumé for each one of these applications. You're just throwing things against the wall to see what sticks and that will be easy to flag by a recruiter if it actually gets that far . Pick a few positions that you were serious about , tailor your résumé to what that company is looking for.

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Typical PhD holder. Expects to jump straight into a senior role rather than start at the bottom like all others....

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Amen

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Not sure about the cc and PhD thing, but number one is that you don't just show up with your education and ask to be hired. You need to intern and work in different labs as you are studying. So the first thing you need to do it network with people in the field and find those entry opportunities. How to network and find those folks is something that you have to figure out. If you don't do that by yourself, nobody else can help.

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Thank you for the response, but how do you grow your network when you don't have any? Also, my advisor specifically told me to prioritize my bench work, even when I asked him about internship/co-op opportunities he didn't approve. So, in my situation without a network or industry experience how do you go about trying to expand your network?

I am right there with you. I have been looking for 8 months and apply to 10+ jobs per day. I always tailor my resume and cover letter and yet, I don't get any calls. The job market is awful right now. Hang in there and keep applying.

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I’m with yall too. We aren’t alone here

Look at Universities for a position. Because you have a PhD, it will allow a higher rate of pay but you do need to work your way up. I work for one of my state universities and support a team of researchers who are developing medication/vaccines/therapies for different problems and some have never worked outside of the school environment. I'm talking people in their 30's-40's. While this may seem unimportant, its not when applying to private companies. It can often mean the person may not have the skill to navigate a workplace. I find this to be true of all the scientists who haven't worked an "outside" job. Also, reach out to professors in the field you want. Ask to work in their lab or ask for a 30 minute Zoom to talk out what path you can take/be most beneficial for you. This is a common practice of those with recent PhDs. Go to YouTube and find videos of how to build your connections on LinkedIn. This can be vitally important to receiving alerts about someone in your network hiring.

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What sort of levels and positions are you targeting. Because your education is highly specialized, you may need to take a different approach to highlight transferable skills. I would also say networking is really important

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Typical PhD holder???? And why should he not expect to jump into a senior role. Holy crap this aggregates me. He had worked his butt off in college to try and make himself a good living and then there are jerks like you who want to belittle people and put them down. He is no better off than you and me. We all put out jeans on one leg at a time. You seem to be so cock sure of yourself. I have a little advice for you.
1) it’s way easier to come down from that high horse than it is to climb on it.
2) treat people as you want to be treat.
3) if you can’t see the good in someone, keep your mouth shut.

I’m sorry but this got all over me. Let’s say he had no experience, and just graduated college (I dont know his circumstances) but WHO is gonna give him the break he needs, to get that experience, we all know it’s not you.

I’m an older person who has experience, who can run rings around the kids of today, no one wants to pay me what I’m worth. There is no negotiating wages in the little town I live. It’s take what is given or move away.

Please stop demeaning the people that are truly trying to get a job. This world is hard enough and the last thing we need is people like you, knocking our end in.

Have some empathy people.

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Older systems of finding a job are working less and less. Lots of hiring managers care about the degreee and NOT necessariy the college you got it at. Don't let that de-motivate you. Find out where people with your specialty are working. Call the hiring manager at a couple of companies out of the blue and expain your situation(WITH confidence, not anxiety). You need to network. Get OUT of the office and in front of people. Work it slowly and build your network any way you can. This does work!

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Saying you got a PhD from a community college may seem odd to people. Plus, coming straight out of school and wanting to be a senior scientist also seems quite odd. You may need to work an internship or get some way of getting in the door first.

Job market is difficult now. It’s a fact. You join in person or online forums and conferences in the area of expertise and introducing yourself to people. You can also go to campus hiring days as well.

Could you see if networking helps at all?

I would try networking face to face....training sessions, conferences, etc. Most of my senior level jobs have come from "who you know"...on the other side of the HR wall....get a insider referral to the hiring manager.

applying with no experience in the job willnot get you the job, just because you have phd doesnt mean straight to stardom.... find a job that is in your field that is from the bottom not the top.
look for lab tech or associate scientist.

hope every reply has widened your horizon

I'm hearing from many people a similar experience (hundreds of applications and no responses) so I don't know whether or not it's related to colleges. These are people with many years of experience in their fields.

I do agree with others that it's likely not realistic to jump right into a senior role. Consider doing some research on what the ATS systems are looking for in your field. Honestly - what I'm seeing is that it's pretty tough out there at the moment. It's challenging to get your resume in front of a human.

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