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Hi Fishes,
I have applied for BNP Paribas, Command center lead role from LinkedIn. Though it is only 3 days,I didnt receive any updates till now. My only concern is in one post it says no more applications accepted and other post it says actively hiring.
Please help job id BNP022012.
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Both the low-ball offer and then their pulling it back are huge red flags. If I had nothing else going on, I'd accept the offer for the immediate income with the full intention of continuing to look for a long-term role
It sounds like things were mishandled all along. What's posted in a job listing is not legally binding. It was your responsibility to ask about the salary in the interview phase. Because you didn't, they may have taken that to mean you weren't too concerned about the salary and sent you the low offer. They may have considered your counteroffer at that point to be unserious. For future reference, learn more about the salary than what was in the job posting.
I loved this comment but in reality it was far more nafarius they where prime for the company I was previously working for so they had inside information about me such as exact previous pay access to money I previously requested in a different position. So they had more leverage. I did not know they had this information till much later as well. They're is so many factors but now in the current economy it's even worse it's the same leverage again.
You def dodged a bullet on this one. Either the company itself is crappy or the leadership is a poor representation of the company. Either way - this doesnt have ANY reflection on you, negotiating is what anyone who knows their self worth would do (within reason, obviously). Especially considering they offered less than what was advertised! If they "weren't sure about you" then they should have kept on interviewing. I know we are all looking for opportunities BUT you're worth more than a company who basically repremanded you and pulled an offer because you negotiated - by negotiating you may have been able to at least get their advertised "starting" range. Overall, negotiating is expected with most companies. It's natural and fair. And as someone from HR posted to you- offers arent typically off the table that easily. In closing, there was a job I negotiated in the past, didnt get any movement and I ended up working there for 3 years (happily) before moving on. That said - these people just werent for you.
You doged a bullet. They were low balling you because the ball is in their court as far as the market is concerned. However, look at the glass half full, instead of half empty. They offered you the position, which means in all likelihood you beat several other candidates. Notwithstanding the offer, you did the right thing in not settling. Although the market is what it is, if you can afford it as to wait for the right job that will pay your worth, keep on looking. The right place for you, the right fit for you and the right salary for you is not too far behind. Don't sweat it. Easier said than done, I know. The bills dont' ever wait. Nevertheless, unless extenuating economic circumstances exist, don't settle for less.
I think it is. The same result happened when I made a counteroffer.
Did the posting have an enormous pay range? Was the offer below the low-end of the range? If so, that seems wrong — was this the case and was your counter to bring into the range?
Did you negotiate the salary in the offer “verbally” as a discussion with the hiring team OR was it an “email”. Always do this verbally and be professional and open on how you communicate to have them see “your value” and why you feel offer should be adjusted upwards.
Companies can rescind an offer, but if purely by asking (assuming you asked verbally/professionally with rationale as above) it is BEST to not work for that organization as getting future increases will be impossible.
It is always, “what you say and how you say it” that makes the difference. Good luck!
I believe that it depends on the industry that you are in. I have never had to renegotiate because I knew what the industry standards were. I have also been given raises unexpectedly.
Take it as a win, you dodged a bullet
Would you really want to work for a shay outfit like that?? Believe it or not you dodged a bullet there. I will bet if you took that job, they would weasel out of any pay raises at review time or worse right you a poor review so they would create ammunition to not give you a raise.
Please where did you get the Job offer?
Yes, it is a red flag. I work for an MSP and went in with a strong salary requirement and the told me that they can only go up another dollar (mind you, it is $4.81 per 10K. I took the job and am now part timer with benefits (rare thing for my role) and working weekends.
Always go in with a 10-20% increase. IF they have a range of 70-90K, just know, you are getting 80K. You MIGHT be able to get 81-83k if you negotiate.
No you did the right thing. I wouldn't want to work for them after that anyhow. They were trying to low ball you but benefit from your work at the same time. You spoke up and clearly they don't like when people act like adults with self respect. You are better off it the onboarding is already messy imagine working there.
I am at a place in my life, after 11 years at the same job, and watching all the newbie’s hired in making almost the same if not the same as I do, that I feel my employer needs to compensate me better for the hard working dedicated employee that I am. I worry so much more than most about doing my job to the best of my ability, and seem to get no recognition financially for it, while others who do not work as hard keep getting raises that match mine. How do you go about asking for more money without being told you are not worth it, and then worrying they will let you go because of it?
Yes