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Both the low-ball offer and then their pulling it back are huge red flags. If I had nothing else going on, I'd accept the offer for the immediate income with the full intention of continuing to look for a long-term role
It sounds like things were mishandled all along. What's posted in a job listing is not legally binding. It was your responsibility to ask about the salary in the interview phase. Because you didn't, they may have taken that to mean you weren't too concerned about the salary and sent you the low offer. They may have considered your counteroffer at that point to be unserious. For future reference, learn more about the salary than what was in the job posting.
I loved this comment but in reality it was far more nafarius they where prime for the company I was previously working for so they had inside information about me such as exact previous pay access to money I previously requested in a different position. So they had more leverage. I did not know they had this information till much later as well. They're is so many factors but now in the current economy it's even worse it's the same leverage again.
WOW. I am sorry to hear that. Sounds like they did the classic bait and switch and I don't blame you for countering. That sounds like a big red flag to me so you might have dodged a bullet honestly.
I saw a job listing for seemingly my exact job 70k to like 150. I asked for 95k they told me they are not sure what range I was looking at and I was mistaken. Fast forward a few years later people are getting paid upwards of 190 in the position. While I made 50k I quit and worked for another company that was contracting for the exact same position and was paid more.
Yes apparently it is
I apply a job where I have 10 years experience and they want to pay me like I found my 18-year-old first time without an experience
I can get the same money doing chipotle or manager at panda express at panda express with a lot less responsibilities
That sounds like a huge red flag. I’m so sorry - but does sound like you’ve potentially dodged a bullet
Man if I desperate for a job and benefits, and the offer turned out to be $4 less per hour I would have kept my mouth shut. That's just me though, I have a family to support.
Ooof this is frustrating OP but rescinding an offer because you countered so susssss - no upstanding employer would do this, in fact it’s mostly expected for candidates to counter. It demonstrates that you know your worth, so you should feel proud you did this (and don’t let it stop you from doing it again). I know the market is tough but that company would only low ball you in other ways too once you’re in. Dodged a bullet.
Wow, that is terrible. You may have "dodged a bullet" then because if they would do that to you, then you might have had issues once working for them with getting ahead, etc. For what it's worth, I have worked for 4 years at the same CRO and had an exceeds expectations performance last year. I thought this year I would be promoted to Sr. PM. As it turns out, our client whose studies I was managing, is now downsizing and our team had to reduce headcount. I was facing a layoff. There is a very long story here, but to make it short, I could not get a job in my own company despite major networking and support from very high up colleagues. I ended up taking an internal transfer which was a demotion and a $20K pay cut. I know for me, timing was part of the issue since the government just cut funding to clinical research. But there is something seriously wrong in the hiring process when they do stuff like that to qualified candidates. I hope you find something even better.
I agree. Overall things are messed up and I'm trying to figure out just what is up all the way across. I'm coming from the lab ops side of CROs. I'm not saying take anyting you can get and I'm on the outside looking in BUT I do think this situation - as presented - was all the way across not right and seems pretty sketch.
I would reply with, “I was under the impression that this position pays $xxx” and include a screenshot of the original post.
Then continue looking for jobs elsewhere.
I would also think about posting the experience on Glassdoor, so that others are aware.
A lot of companies do that, like Estée Lauder & Macy’s. They will out a range between $x-$x then when the recruiter will say , the real salary is $x, but it’s listed as that, because bonuses etc tied into it.”
The only place that I know of that has done a bait & switch is Macy’s.
I would like to know how much is the salary for a bus transit driver if its encouraging am ready to take the offer so long as the conditions are better and encouraging
Hello,
Im not sure what state you live in, but I'm in Mew Jersey and worked for NJ Transit. There starting pay is $23 and some change. Many years ago they use to start bus drivers off with $40 now its all low balling. I always encourage people to apply to the rail side where the money is way more.
Try to be as nice as possible. And never ask for more than they can offer even if it is your birthday or lastt wish.
I've had this experience but I'm also new to this style of forum. Could anyone kindly tell me if it's just by chance I saw this after looking at a job posting just before seeing this or is that just coincidence? I'm more accustomed to indeed's interface than Glassdoor's. TIA
Hiring manages in this group is this appropriate when they make you an offer and you want to counter,,... Can I have at least 24 hours to think this over?
Dear [Hiring Manager’s Name],
Thank you so much for extending the offer for the [Job Title] position. I am genuinely excited about the opportunity to contribute to [Company Name] and to be a part of such a forward-thinking team.
After reviewing the offer, I noticed that the compensation is lower than what was initially listed in the job posting. Additionally, I hold a Master’s degree in [Your Field], which I believe brings added value to this role in terms of expertise and long-term contributions.
With that in mind, I’d like to respectfully request a salary of [$Your Counter Amount], which aligns more closely with the original posting and reflects my educational background and experience.
I’m confident we can reach a mutually beneficial agreement, and I look forward to moving ahead together.
Warm regards,
[Your Full Name]
[Your Phone Number]
[Your Email Address]
The whole time I am doing the math in my head and writing on paper. Just want some feed back. Thanks in advance!
What's the pay
That's the thing with countering, they cannrecing=d the offer
I think you dodged a bullet. Onward and Upward. If you don't advocate for your worth, who will!
Companies can do that….. you have to be very confident and have back up offers otherwise you’re gonna have to take it
This sounds like a shady employer, or at least a sloppy one.
Question though: at any time during the application or interview process, did you give them salary requirements? If so, did your counter offer match the salary requirements you quoted?
One candidate lost a lot of my confidence when our initial offer exceeded the salary requirements she initially stated, and her response was 'oh, that's low.'
I expect candidates to counter, but it's a red flag when they say whatever they think will get them an offer, and then change their tune at the end.
Dangerous to do so in an Asian culture. They take it as an insult as they believe we think we are superior to them. Unfortunately you have to "lowball" the starting offer which leaves you further in the hole to start with.