I work as an accountant at a B4 firm. I am a senior accountant that performs well, but my biggest flaw is that I struggle with ADHD and have had chronic sleeping issues since middle school. Combined with the meds, I can sometimes oversleep (if i took them late from waking up too late the prior day) or be groggy.
I have every alarm you can think of - classic alarm clock, phone, watch, zapping-watch, vibrating thing for pillow — literally all you can think of.

Continued below:

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Speaking from experience here…

You don’t seem to have coping mechanisms in place to help you. The long term answer is that you need therapy, not a coach.

I ignored the pharma side of the issue my whole life and worked on building coping mechanism. Eventually, none of them worked anymore. Then I started taking medication, and suddenly my coping techniques started working again. When I combine both of those with a clean diet and just a little bit of exercise, I feel almost super powered.

Covid + several family medical issues, knocked me off my food and exercise path, but medication + coping techniques are helping me take the steps to get back on track.

likehelpful

Thank you for the response. I think this is the next step for me. I appreciate the guidance and with you luck on your own journey.

I’ve been there OP. Every situation is unique, but some steps that worked for me:

— Revised sleep schedule. I started going to bed much earlier and waking up earlier. This was difficult and took some time to adjust, but eventually I did. If your first meeting is at 8 and your biological clock becomes accustomed to waking up at 6, then even if you oversleep an hour, you won’t be in danger.

— Morning routine. I saw you posted about a previous workout routine. Get back into it! It’s never too late to start back up. Starting your day with a morning workout, journaling, catching up on emails/work, etc. will help so that the meeting isn’t the thing you miss if you do oversleep.

— Later meetings. I adjusted my schedule/took on projects where my work day didn’t start until slightly later and I try to make sure my day never starts with a client meeting. Missing a 1:1 with a colleague or other meeting isn’t good, but not as critical as missing a client meeting.

I know it can be a struggle OP and can’t promise these will help, but they made life a lot easier for me. Best of luck!

helpfullike

Completely understand this is a health issue you’re dealing with, but there’s also the reality that if you can’t get it under control, you can’t do the job. You cannot regularly sleep through client meetings.

Good luck.

likehelpful

For how long have you been taking these meds and what kind ?

Also do you hear/feel any of these alarms you set or no?

like

I’ve been on meds since around senior year of uni too, so it’s been a while (around 10 yrs for me). My psychiatrist told me to set an alarm to take my meds and go back to sleep and set an alarm for 30 mins later to get up

Sounds like you need to set a hard time for sleep and awake hours and stick to those times even for the weekend (for now). Like bedtime by 12, awake by 7. And make no exceptions about it - as soon as you hear those alarms you need to get up and get your a** moving.

like

I worked at a B4. And, if I can answer your question the way I experienced the life of management consulting, yes I do believe that your issue may affect and delay your promotion. Promotions are for top top top performers. It’s cut throat. Make it or leave. My advice to you: exit into a role you’re happy with and search for a team that understands and supports you. No B4 will support you and help you grow if your issue interferes with your performance. Sorry dude. Good luck 🍀

like

Thank you for the response. For the first 1.5 years at the firm I would say I was considered a top performer. My metrics are good and all aligned in the higher echelon with my peers. I have good relationships with everyone I work with — it doesn’t happen with everyone. It’s happened twice with clients, only once or twice with some internal meetings that were non-essential.

I’ve been told I was on partner track before, but I get your point and appreciate the feedback. I know it takes years to build a reputation and only one mistake to ruin it. Thank you again.

like

You seriously need to see a doctor.

helpful

Fellow ADHD/night owl
Is there someone in your life willing to call you in the morning? When I was single, my dad would call me every morning at 8am to make sure I was awake for work. Helped me a ton.

Additionally, I switch up the noises/sounds of the alarm in my phone. Its currently ducks quacking. It’ll switch to chimes next.

like

Vitamin Deficiency
More Greens and Vegetables
Working out

Maybe those things can help if your not do it?

like

Have overslept client meetings before, once or twice. Had to play it off as either family emergency, or just no response (at advice of coach), but what does this mean for my career? Coach is aware of the above — will anyone care about this when it comes time for promotions?

I feel like over the last 6 months it has definitely compounded, maybe from depression — but I don’t take meds for that and I don’t want to. I never have and never plan to.

Just looking for some guidance for anyone who might have gone through something like this before or have any advice/feedback.

Thank you in advance.

Take magnesium, talk to a therapist , take your ADHD meds consistently, drink a crap load of water. You got this!

likehelpful

Are you on sleep meds? You could easily have hypersomnia

Why not start going to the gym again? Gyms are all open

like

I have the same issue (but never overslept before). Id recommend starting a routine if you can and never taking your medication after 1 pm. If you do then I hope it’s all all nighter or instant release (4-6 hours max). If I were to take vyvanse at 5 pm, I’d be a wreck when trying to sleep.

As for the insomnia, it might be the timing of the medication or the stress of the next day, perhaps? As far as your career, it’s going to be very hard to come back from this reputation-wise depending on who knows about it. Does all of this happen during vacation when you aren’t taking anything?

In addition to seeing a doctor, have you tried speaking with a performance / career coach? Feel free to send me a DM. I’m 15yrs Big4 and have been coaching young professionals

Related Posts

I have a good friend who is looking for a VP of marketing type position coming from a top health system. Minneapolis area, has prior Big 4 experience and an MBA from a top 5 program. Thoughts?

like

Are there any RPA UiPath openings in any of the big 4? Is lateral recruitment happening for these roles? Thanks in Advance

like

What happens if you don’t join due to better package from other big 4 after excepting the offer

Looking for purchase health insurance for business. Has anyone bought health insurance through their solo practice as a corporation. Any recommendations as to who to use. Small firm 1-5

like

Best age to freeze my eggs? I’m 30. Is it too early?

like

Hey folks! How are you handling the pandemic and work from home situation?

like

Did you/would you get booster during pregnancy?

like

Traveling from 🇩🇪 to 🇪🇸 next month. I couldn’t find information about the janssen vaccine, does this still count? Got the jannsen in 06/21 and Comirnaty in 12/21. Do I count as boostered, or do I need a take a pcr test prior?

like

Why do people lift right in front of the weight rack? Get out of the way!!!!!!

like

Is there anyone here that is a physician advisor? If so, how do you like it?

like

Any recs for good gyms around South End or Back Bay? I’m a 27F, looking to get back into lifting but also I want options for personal training.

like

toronto folks (gta, too… im desperate), how should i go about finding a family doctor? havent had one since high school under parental care, and emailed a handful from this govt link but all either no capacity or no response. much appreciated 🙏

likesmart

Would you take an offer at EY or Apple? Apple recruiter mentioned that there will be early morning meetings (6 or 7am), EY recruiter said WLB in EY is best for big 4.

like

For those that are familiar with the Big 4 AAS practice, which one has the largest market in NYC/Boston? I was extend a couple of offers and am having trouble deciding which one to take. TIA.

like

Sibling is 52 days sober from heroin/cocaine, but I just found a syringe and alcohol wipes under their pillow.

They have been passing observed urine tests, how is it possible that they’re using? Any ideas?

like

I think I need to see a therapist because I actually miss the Firm now.

like

Breaking: Boris Johnson moved to ICU bc of COVID-19

Post Photo
likeupliftingsmarthelpful

What is the best and cheapest courier service to send an parcel from us to India. I want to send some medicines and pain killer creams to my mom who lives in country side of up,India. Does custom blocks pain killer creams ?

like

More Posts

Really weird question. I sometimes pull out my beard hair when it gets long. It’s always in one location. I just noticed today that my hair has NOT grown back in that area (on my chin) and it’s visibly obvious. Will it ever grow back…?

like

UDF, LDF or BJP?

funny

Well, well, well...no consulting snow day, but did get upgraded to first. I'm willing to call that a win. Thanks, Delta! ❄️

like

30K signing bonus in an offer from a higher ranked firm…am I crazy to go back to my firm to see if they will match it. I don’t want to leave, just want the extra $$.

like

What is the future earning potential of a Talent Acquisition Manager in London?

If you eventually move into a Head of/Director of Talent, how high can the salaries go?

Currently on £40K + Bonus + Equity

like

Any open OCM roles within this network?

like

Boyfriend threw a bottle at my laptop screen last night. Another toxic Friday night after drinking 😞

like

Folks, based on your experience, what are the pros and cons of making an internal transfer within your firm and/or applying for a role at another firm when making a move to the west?

like

How is Marsh & McLennan regarded in the MEA?

like

Very new to being headhunted by recruiters on LinkedIn, should I be concerned with sending recruiters my resume or anything along those lines if they’ve messaged me?

like

I have a lease with my landlord in NYC. He is selling the unit. Am I going to be pushed out by the new owner? I’m still ok till my lease termination date regardless right? I guess that’s all I care about.

likehelpful

Hello - has anyone tracked ads, or creative, date sent, etc? If so, what database did you use?

Are there any recruiters or head hunters for Video Producers or Content Producers / Executive Producers? I've never heard of any but please enlighten me if you have!

likehelpful

So do higher ups (managers/directors/etc) in FFD talk to each other about the progress of seniors and associates in a similar manner to how the staff are ranked during audit roundtables??

like

Where are there openings for a lead strategist / head of strategy at the moment? Not asking for a friend.

like

Does anyone do short term investing in the stock market (short term meaning 1day - 2 week trades) if so, what has been your best tool for research? Have you found this strategy to be worth it?

like

My investing strategy is just to DCA into an S&P 500 index fund and keep buying and holding. If I understand correctly, the sole disadvantage this has compared to a tax sheltered retirement account is that the quarterly dividends will be taxed? But even so, they’ll be taxed at a lower qualified dividend rate since I’m automatically reinvesting those dividends.

like

What are the best investment books or authors for beginners? What are the best podcasts, YouTube channels or bloggers to follow? What are your favorite stock trading platforms? And if you finally have six figures cash ready to invest, what's the best place to start? Which broker / financial advisor would you recommend? This is only for 3-5 years to ultimately buy a decent home for my family.

I'm clearly a dummy so any help is greatly appreciated.

like

How to invest in commodities (e.g. wheat)?

like

Additional Posts in The Worklife Bowl

Working on a regular desk and my laptop has been killing my back and neck for last few years. Finally spent a couple hundred dollars on a standing desk, wireless keyboard, and back/neck heating pad to alleviate the pain. Very hopeful working will be much better now.

like

Everyone, please start book marking your nominees for "Fishbowl Thread of the Year."

Planning prizes (gift cards?) for 1st/2nd/3rd place by most votes on 1/1/2021 12 PM CST

My money is on the "Singles in Consulting" bowl having some juicy stories.

like

Can’t. Stop. Shopping!
What are some things that you splurged on during WFH?

likehelpful

I’m currently signed on a contract for my first house for new construction that has gas heating. I have not lived in a house with this before and this entire time have been battling the anxiety of it even with detector. The house, location, and price is all everything I could dream of. Any advice on what to do in this situation?

like

Book recommendations? I’ve been reading atomic habits, and have moved onto Traders guns and money.

like

Does anybody have any recommendations for podcasts related to career success, work-life balance, etc?

like

Friendly reminder: please clean your phone as often as your hand 🖐

Post Photo
likehelpfulfunny

Bain is hosting holiday party at Joy District Club in Chicago… KPMG needs to step it up…

like

Any way to get discounts on unlocked apple phones?

like

Last song you listened to.. go!

likehelpful

I have a yahoo email address. Does having one appear to be outdated compared to google?

funnylike
likehelpful

Remember this folder on your phone?

Post Photo
likefunny

Realized I like to sit cross legged while I work and my current chair doesn’t have enough room for that. Anyone have chair recommendations? Flexible on price

like

Do you guys judge everyone you meet based on their backgrounds (e.g. pedigree & work experience)?



I find literally everybody I meet, I look up their backgrounds and judge them / compare myself. I think this is a problem.

like

Very worried Trump might start another war with an irrelevant small country just to distract people from the fact that he is so incompetent. Dying in the hand of fellow human is worse than virus to me

likehelpfulfunny

Tomorrow is the 1 year anniversary of the passing of my roommates mom. She’s devastated and I know tomorrow will be hard. Any ideas on what I can do to help her through appreciated.

likeuplifting

Hi BAL has submitted my H1B on 04/24 and yet to receive the receipt number. How soon the attorney will update the receipt number?

like

First toilet paper, now it’s flour, yeast and baking products. Why is instant yeast 10x more expensive on amazon?! Is everyone really trying their hand at baking now? What happened to rice and pasta?

likefunny

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal