đŸ’„If I’m a T2/MBB/Big4 recruiter and find out a candidate accepted with us, reneged before the start date, and is joining a competitor consulting firm instead, what stops me from messaging that other recruiting team & letting them know this is a “bad Apple”? Experienced hire recruiting, where universities regulations aren’t in play?

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As a recruiter, you know that a company will rescind an offer or fire an employee for any reason or no reason at all, so please don’t get all high and mighty when a candidate decides to take a better offer before they’ve ever stepped foot inside your company.

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This is why we can’t stand recruiters OP. They provide the absolute least possible amount of transparency throughout the whole process, frequently ignore qualified candidates due to their own lack of experience/knowledge around what the job actually entails, and are often rude to candidates (ghosting, slow response, etc), yet expect those candidates to display the utmost professionalism or risk getting dinged.

If the recruiting process was more transparent, situations like this would be less common. I’d be willing to bet that this person went through the whole process (dedicating significant time and effort), then right at the end found out that either, 1) salary didn’t align with expectations, 2) the role wasn’t as initially advertised, or 3) their promotion path wasn’t as clear as expected. They were likely in a situation were they had no choice but to accept or risk having no job at all (probably after also being given an absurdly short amount of time to make a potentially life-changing decision), then later received an offer which actually aligned with expectations.

Unless you have absolutely no professionalism, personal pride, or empathy, you shouldn’t call this person out. You don’t know what was going on behind the scenes, and like all of us, they probably just wanted to make a decision that would make them and their family happy. And like I said, this probably could have all been avoided if recruiters actually cared about placing people into jobs that are a good fit rather than shoehorning as many candidates as possible into random roles in order to maximize their own commissions.

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Agree .. it is recruiters and client market now. The demand( no of unemployed ) is more than supply(jobs) and Honestly I had very bad experience with recruiters since pandemic.. I had to chase every morning for status updates and process .. all due to lack of professionalism or not being transparent. But you network only makes difference..

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If you’re at the associate level it’s probably fine. I think as you get more senior, it hurts a bit more.

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It’s not the place of the recruiter to contact another company to provide unsolicited feedback, and they would be a liability for the company they work for. I would sue someone if they did that to me (stopping me from another opportunity).

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If anything, it will cause the other company to be happy that the candidate wanted them that badly.

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Clearly communicate why you want to decline the offer - found a better fit, more pay, gut feeling etc. recruiting team will appreciate it especially before they waste time on boarding you. They prob have a backup candidate ready to go as well

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My school used to blacklist students from OCR who reneged on an offer. If you're not in school, then who cares? Any students should never reneg on a offer unless they care to find jobs without OCR.

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Don't make it personal

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It's not uncommon practice and candidate owes you no loyalty same way they would be laid off if they had just accepted and started in Feb last year. The other firm will prob look poorly upon you rather than the candidate.

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Let it go, unless you really suffered a material loss.

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I did this. Life moved on. And now 6 years later I’m back at the company I reneged on. Who cares.

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Why would you do this? People need to do what’s best for their own career, and people get buyer’s remorse all the time. That’s why many contracts these days have opt-out clauses where the purchaser can choose to cancel without penalties.

You might want to reach out to the candidate and “sincerely” ask why the candidate changed directions - maybe you will learn something about your own practices by doing so. But otherwise, I suggest that you just let it go.

The fact this thought came into your head, and truly made it to the point where you decided to put it on the internet and seriously consider doing it... This is why recruiters have such a bad rep in the industry. Be better OP

OP is not the recruiter, he/she asked hypothetically😂

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I was a recruiter at a boutique consulting firm and this post makes me cringe. People change their minds all the time and that is fine—it’s how it works! I have also seen people come back to us after a spell at the other firms and be very successful! I would only dock someone for doing this more than once...and I never would retaliate. That’s seriously weird.

I’m confused if this is a hypothetical and you’re the candidate trying to make sure your ass is covered or if you’re actually the recruiter looking for advice 😅

1. If this candidate is such a hot commodity maybe you could’ve gotten them a better offer that would’ve kept him from reneging.
2. Very few people will look out for your best interest like you do. I’m not to say what the candidate did was a good/bad decision, but to them it must’ve been the right decision. If a candidate passes up a better offer before starting they’re likely to have resentment that could result in a short tenure at the firm. Your client may actually be better off without them.

They can do whatever they want. They aren’t obligated to join the firm at that date, they can keep their options open. Be a better recruiter so that they dont do this instead of tale telling

Nothing. But what are you getting out of this?

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